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0 pointsIshKebab10mo ago0 comments

Count yourself lucky you haven't had to use Jira! Or bugzilla for that matter.

I agree it is rather basic but I don't see how it's hard to navigate.

> accepting GitHub PRs is going to be a recipe for thousands of low-value drive-by commits, which will require a lot of triage.

I don't think that really happens based on what I've seen of other huge projects on GitHub.

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elric10mo ago

> Count yourself lucky you haven't had to use Jira! Or bugzilla for that matter.

Jira and bugzilla are vastly superior to GH Issues.

Jira doesn't even deserve 10% of the hate it gets. Most of what makes Jira awful is the people using it. Bugzilla is getting a bit long in the tooth, but at least it's still free and open source.

IshKebabOP10mo ago

> Jira and bugzilla are vastly superior to GH Issues.

I think you're in the tiny minority with that opinion.

> Most of what makes Jira awful is the people using it.

Not even close. Yes, people aren't good at administering it, but there are soooo many reasons that it's shit apart from that. Not least the hilarious slowness. Jira Cloud is so slow that not even Atlassian use it.

Also I don't think you can just say "you're holding it wrong". Part of the reason people screw up Jira configs so much is that it makes it so easy to screw them up. You can't separate the two.

> but at least it's still free and open source.

Just being open source doesn't make something good.

elric10mo ago

> I think you're in the tiny minority with that opinion.

I'm not. The whole "I hate Jira thing" is a meme among a very vocal minority of tech enthusiasts. They don't have tens of millions of users because Jira is awful. The reason why so many people cry about it (apart from the meme-factor) is that people conflate Jira with their team's failed approach at scrum.

Sure, it has rough edges, and sure, Atlassian as a company sucks. I have a bug report open on their Jira for some 20 years and I don't think it will ever get fixed. And yes, Jira Cloud is very slow, it's ridiculous. And in spite of that, GH Issues is still objectively worse. It's so far behind in terms of features that it isn't even a fair comparison.

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dblohm710mo ago

Mozilla's Bugzilla instance is not an out-of-the-box installation of Bugzilla. It's awesome IMHO. I use GitHub issues now, and it pales in comparison. I miss bugzilla.mozilla.org every day.

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elric10mo ago

> Count yourself lucky you haven't had to use Jira! Or bugzilla for that matter.

Jira and bugzilla are vastly superior to GH Issues.

Jira doesn't even deserve 10% of the hate it gets. Most of what makes Jira awful is the people using it. Bugzilla is getting a bit long in the tooth, but at least it's still free and open source.

IshKebabOP10mo ago

> Jira and bugzilla are vastly superior to GH Issues.

I think you're in the tiny minority with that opinion.

> Most of what makes Jira awful is the people using it.

Also I don't think you can just say "you're holding it wrong". Part of the reason people screw up Jira configs so much is that it makes it so easy to screw them up. You can't separate the two.

> but at least it's still free and open source.

Just being open source doesn't make something good.

elric10mo ago

> I think you're in the tiny minority with that opinion.

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dblohm710mo ago

Mozilla's Bugzilla instance is not an out-of-the-box installation of Bugzilla. It's awesome IMHO. I use GitHub issues now, and it pales in comparison. I miss bugzilla.mozilla.org every day.

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