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0 pointsUltraSane1y ago0 comments

I am so tired of this lie being repeated endlessly. We have a perfectly safe way to handle nuclear "waste":

reprocess the dirty fuel and bury the actual waste deep underground like Finland is doing at the Onkalo spent nuclear fuel repository.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo...

And there is still very much a need for zero-carbon DISPATCHABLE electricity of witch nuclear is the ONLY choice. You simply cannot have 100% of your electricity from only solar and wind because it is far too variable and we simply don't have the technology to store electricity cheaply enough.

Your attitude towards nuclear energy is as irrational as the average antivaxer towards vaccines.

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worik1y ago

> bury the actual waste deep underground

How deep, to stay put thousands of generations?

UltraSaneOP1y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo...

worik1y ago

No answer to the problems that:

A) The area is not known to be geologically stable over the extraordinarily long time periods necessary. (Nowhere is....)

B) There is no containment vessel that can last that long

I get tired of the wishful thinking. Being charitable as describing it as that.

In the future, 600 generations from now, when the poisons we lay down now are bubbling up, perhaps people then will have forgotten us. If not, they will not forgive us

And so unnecessary

UltraSaneOP1y ago

" the extraordinarily long time periods necessary. (Nowhere is....)"

This is the the lie that I'm really tired of people repeating. Nuclear waste isn't THAT dangerous and doesn't have to be kept perfectly isolated for THAT long.

"In the future, 600 generations from now, when the poisons we lay down now are bubbling up,"

You should really be more worried about the 36 billion tons of CO2 we are spewing into the atmosphere every year instead of a TINY amount of nuclear waste many thousands of years in the future.

You are like someone with a malignant tumor worrying about the risks of radiation therapy.

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adgjlsfhk11y ago

hydro is also a 0 carbon dispatchable choice (which is much cheaper)

worik1y ago

Geothermal

Kubuxu1y ago

Majority of good spots for hydro were already built up, and if they weren’t, good luck with NIMBY.

adgjlsfhk11y ago

meant of the good spots are already used, but we can change how they are used to greatly increase their usefulness to a 0 carbon grid. we can make them all pumped hydro, and start treating hydro as a battery rather than a generation source.

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worik1y ago

> bury the actual waste deep underground

How deep, to stay put thousands of generations?

UltraSaneOP1y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo...

worik1y ago

No answer to the problems that:

A) The area is not known to be geologically stable over the extraordinarily long time periods necessary. (Nowhere is....)

B) There is no containment vessel that can last that long

I get tired of the wishful thinking. Being charitable as describing it as that.

In the future, 600 generations from now, when the poisons we lay down now are bubbling up, perhaps people then will have forgotten us. If not, they will not forgive us

And so unnecessary

UltraSaneOP1y ago

" the extraordinarily long time periods necessary. (Nowhere is....)"

This is the the lie that I'm really tired of people repeating. Nuclear waste isn't THAT dangerous and doesn't have to be kept perfectly isolated for THAT long.

"In the future, 600 generations from now, when the poisons we lay down now are bubbling up,"

You should really be more worried about the 36 billion tons of CO2 we are spewing into the atmosphere every year instead of a TINY amount of nuclear waste many thousands of years in the future.

You are like someone with a malignant tumor worrying about the risks of radiation therapy.

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adgjlsfhk11y ago

hydro is also a 0 carbon dispatchable choice (which is much cheaper)

worik1y ago

Geothermal

Kubuxu1y ago

Majority of good spots for hydro were already built up, and if they weren’t, good luck with NIMBY.

adgjlsfhk11y ago

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