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0 pointssekai1y ago0 comments

They don't collect data?

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That's where the real money is.

wmf1y ago

If you use it, that means you received more value than you gave up. It's called consumer surplus.

If I pay £200,000 for a car, I received more value than I gave up, otherwise I wouldn't have given the owner £200,000 for her car. No reasonable person would say the car was "free"...

JumpCrisscross1y ago

> If you use it, that means you received more value than you gave up. It's called consumer surplus

This is true for literally any transaction. Actually, it's true for any rational action. If you're being tortured, and you decide it's not worth it to keep your secrets hidden any longer, you get more than you give up when you stop being tortured.

klabb31y ago

It’s only true in theory and over a single transaction, not necessarily over time. The hack that VCs have exploited for decades now is subsidizing products and acquiring competition to eventually enshittify. In this case, when OpenAI dials up the inevitable enshittification, they’ll have gotten a ton of data from their users to use for their proprietary closed AI.

patmcc1y ago

That's effectively every business that isn't a complete rent-seeking monopoly. It's not a very good measure.

edit: to be clear, it's not a bad thing - we should want companies that create consumer surplus. But that's the default state of companies in a healthy market.

buuuutwut1y ago

“Use of prison facilities is explicit admission of guilt.”

It’s called prisoners dilemma when even the government is propping this up.

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