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0 pointsEvgeniyZh1y ago0 comments

> they would be stupid not to if their classmates are using it.

Why would they be stupid? Were people before LLMs stupid for not asking smarter classmate/parent/paid contractor to solve the homework for them?

Large part of education is learning about things that can be easily automated, because you can't learn hard things without learning easy things. Nothing conceptually changed in this regard, like Wolfram Alpha didn't change the way differentiation is taught.

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fallinditch1y ago

Agreed, my bad choice of words. I really meant 'stupid' from a slightly ironic, competitive point of view. It's like the pressure to cheat in professional sport is obviously so intense, I'm sure a lot of a cheat's motivation is to remain competitive because their colleagues are cheating so they feel they have to as well, otherwise they lose.

EvgeniyZhOP1y ago

YMMV, in my uni there is more or less zero impact of cheating in your homeworks in most classes: the homework has low weight in final grade and are graded very generously.

I agree that making assignments not designed with external sources in mind significantly impact the final grade is not ideal. I think this is minor and easily fixable point rather than some failure of the whole education system.

roland351y ago

What's funny about this is if you are an athlete who cheats constantly while growing up - you'll never develop the skills to be able to make it as a pro. Interesting how students don't see this same situation with their homework

lmm1y ago

> Were people before LLMs stupid for not asking smarter classmate/parent/paid contractor to solve the homework for them?

In American universities where your GPA from your in-class assessments forms part of your final grade? Yes, absolutely.

Where I came from you do your learning in class and your assessment in a small, short set of exams (and perhaps one graded essay) at the end of each year. That seems far more conducive to learning things without having to juggle two competing objectives the whole time.

EvgeniyZhOP1y ago

> In American universities where your GPA from your in-class assessments forms part of your final grade? Yes, absolutely.

Whether not doing everything to maximize your GPA is "stupid" (literally or figuratively) is a good question too.

But even if your assignments influence your GPA it's rarely the only thing that does, and not doing assignments will harm your ability to perform in midterm/exam/whatever.

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fallinditch1y ago

EvgeniyZhOP1y ago

YMMV, in my uni there is more or less zero impact of cheating in your homeworks in most classes: the homework has low weight in final grade and are graded very generously.

roland351y ago

lmm1y ago

> Were people before LLMs stupid for not asking smarter classmate/parent/paid contractor to solve the homework for them?

In American universities where your GPA from your in-class assessments forms part of your final grade? Yes, absolutely.

EvgeniyZhOP1y ago

> In American universities where your GPA from your in-class assessments forms part of your final grade? Yes, absolutely.

Whether not doing everything to maximize your GPA is "stupid" (literally or figuratively) is a good question too.

But even if your assignments influence your GPA it's rarely the only thing that does, and not doing assignments will harm your ability to perform in midterm/exam/whatever.

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