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0 pointsJumpCrisscross1y ago0 comments

> a simple carbon tax would be miles better than the complex morass of regulations we currently have

Doesn't this just punt the morass into the magic variable of one's carbon footprint?

How about this: fleet efficiency standards are stupid, anachronistic and counterproductive. Scrap them. Then, separarately, create a consumer-side rebate based on a vehicle's mileage. (Because a gas tax breaks American brains.)

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SecretDreams1y ago

> How about this: fleet efficiency standards are stupid, anachronistic and counterproductive. Scrap them. Then, separarately, create a consumer-side rebate based on a vehicle's mileage. (Because a gas tax breaks American brains.)

It's a good concept that is also ripe for abuse with anyone who has some amount of "fuck your rules" money. Same reason why fines that don't scale with income/earnings in some form often do nothing to deter "the rich".

I certainly like carrots more than sticks, but we need a couple of sticks as well.

morepedantic1y ago

Scaling fines with income only works to hard stop behavior, at which point just make it illegal. Most fines are proportional to damages.

Criminalizing fossil fuels is insane. The fines should cover the externalities.

SecretDreams1y ago

> Scaling fines with income only works to hard stop behavior,

No, it makes it so that the outcome is more equally felt across all income levels.

What does someone affluent care if they have to pay a $100 speeding ticket or a $20 parking ticket? That's just the cost of business for them.

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SecretDreams1y ago

I certainly like carrots more than sticks, but we need a couple of sticks as well.

morepedantic1y ago

Scaling fines with income only works to hard stop behavior, at which point just make it illegal. Most fines are proportional to damages.

Criminalizing fossil fuels is insane. The fines should cover the externalities.

SecretDreams1y ago

> Scaling fines with income only works to hard stop behavior,

No, it makes it so that the outcome is more equally felt across all income levels.

What does someone affluent care if they have to pay a $100 speeding ticket or a $20 parking ticket? That's just the cost of business for them.

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