> I stated that very plainly
You actually didn't state it very plainly at all. Your initial post is contradictory, look at these two statements side by side
> There will always be individuals that enjoy coding and do so without any formal teaching. People like that will always be more effective at their job once employed
> the best devs will have gotten formal teaching and code in their free time
People who enjoy coding without formal training -> more effective
People who enjoy coding and have formal training -> best devs
Anyways I get what you were trying to say, now. You just did not do a very good job of saying it imo. Sorry for the misunderstanding