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0 pointscasey211mo ago0 comments

Sounds like due process was exactly what she got. Are you suggesting everybody gets a trial before they are deported? Or that the US has to allow you to enter if you do so legally, determined by trial? Either will result in much, much longer deportation times.

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Juliate11mo ago

> Are you suggesting everybody gets a trial before they are deported?

Well, yes, because that's precisely what due process is?

If "everybody" doesn't get a trial before a judge, if _you_ happened to be taken by ICE[1], how would you manage not being deported?

By proving you're a legal citizen? But how do you do so if there's no due process?

[1] (for whatever reason; today it's on the suspicion to be an "illegal", based on whatever the guys smell; but tomorrow?)

account4211mo ago

Getting a trial for a visa violation is not what happens outside the US either.

Juliate11mo ago

Usually not a the border, no, because there it's an administrative thing, but then you are sent back to your originating country.

However, if arrested within the borders, yes, it becomes a different matter where you _are_ going through a judicial process, to assess whatever should happen, and why exactly (and to document the process).

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Juliate11mo ago

> Are you suggesting everybody gets a trial before they are deported?

Well, yes, because that's precisely what due process is?

If "everybody" doesn't get a trial before a judge, if _you_ happened to be taken by ICE[1], how would you manage not being deported?

By proving you're a legal citizen? But how do you do so if there's no due process?

[1] (for whatever reason; today it's on the suspicion to be an "illegal", based on whatever the guys smell; but tomorrow?)

account4211mo ago

Getting a trial for a visa violation is not what happens outside the US either.

Juliate11mo ago

Usually not a the border, no, because there it's an administrative thing, but then you are sent back to your originating country.

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