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0 pointsmacrocosmos1y ago0 comments

You state that as if it is fact despite there being no evidence to support that viewpoint.

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Emphasizing voting with your wallet means those with the most money dictate how things work. Google and Apple vote with their wallet all the time. When they’re buying competitors, buying preferential treatment for each other, and buying law makers and regulators.

We aren’t going to out bid them on any of these things. We have to make it illegal, and vote in people who will enforce the laws.

shakna1y ago

Is not the EU's regulations largely successful? Some have underestimated maliscious compliance, but for most.

nickff1y ago

It depends on how you define success; the EU has certainly managed to achieve a great deal of standardization and compliance, at the cost of rate of progress and business model innovation. You might think this is a worthwhile trade off, but people differ in their priorities.

shakna1y ago

Fewer deaths, higher quality of life, more job security. Seems like for the average person, the trade off is well worth it.

_aavaa_1y ago

> business model innovation

The OpenAI grift, the Facebook & Google stalking advertising, the Uber “independent contractors”, and the Amazon two-for of workers pissing in bottles and squeezing your suppliers so prices rise everywhere.

Yes, what a loss for the EU.

Defletter1y ago

> at the cost of rate of progress and business model innovation

That's a pretty massive claim. Do you have any examples of this?

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realusername1y ago

Citations needed. The DSA never applied to a single EU company and GDPR is the bare minimum on user privacy.

And by the time the EU attempted any of those, we already had the duopoly and the competition was already dead.

frollogaston1y ago

Please don't "source?" this, it's just a viewpoint.

macrocosmosOP1y ago

We’re in agreement that it is a viewpoint. I think it’s bad for productive conversation to state viewpoints as absolute facts that everyone else holds.

frollogaston1y ago

Then I'm guilty of this too.

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_aavaa_1y ago

We aren’t going to out bid them on any of these things. We have to make it illegal, and vote in people who will enforce the laws.

shakna1y ago

Is not the EU's regulations largely successful? Some have underestimated maliscious compliance, but for most.

nickff1y ago

shakna1y ago

Fewer deaths, higher quality of life, more job security. Seems like for the average person, the trade off is well worth it.

_aavaa_1y ago

> business model innovation

Yes, what a loss for the EU.

Defletter1y ago

> at the cost of rate of progress and business model innovation

That's a pretty massive claim. Do you have any examples of this?

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realusername1y ago

Citations needed. The DSA never applied to a single EU company and GDPR is the bare minimum on user privacy.

And by the time the EU attempted any of those, we already had the duopoly and the competition was already dead.

frollogaston1y ago

Please don't "source?" this, it's just a viewpoint.

macrocosmosOP1y ago

We’re in agreement that it is a viewpoint. I think it’s bad for productive conversation to state viewpoints as absolute facts that everyone else holds.

frollogaston1y ago

Then I'm guilty of this too.

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