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0 pointsbigyabai1y ago0 comments

I've heard it all before, both of these are simple to refute. Apple designed the USB-C connector, they knew it was an option. But as is Apple tradition, they created a new licensed serial and power connector specifically for their phones to promote MFi, their arbitrary USB DRM. Apple could have switched to USB-C at any time; they had no issue shipping millions of peripherals and Macs with them onboard. But they didn't, because then they couldn't foist a proprietary standard onto their most lucrative submarket.

> If you want another App Store just by an Android phone since that's a feature they offer.

Sorry, this is bullshit. Alternative sources for installing software will always exist, even current iPhone users have to accept Cydia as an option. You don't ever have to leave the Apple App Store, but your preference has no right to enforce an artificial limitation onto other users. The Mac as a product would not exist without third-party software distribution, the iPhone is undeniably stifled by Apple's stance on the matter.

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mrlambchop1y ago

Lightning development started in 2008 as I was there!

USB-C development started in 2012 (I was not there!), but from wiki, the ever helpful source of truth: "The design for the USB-C connector was initially developed in 2012 by Intel, HP Inc., Microsoft, and the USB Implementers Forum. The Type-C Specification 1.0 was published by the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) on August 11, 2014.[1] In July 2016, it was adopted by the IEC as "IEC 62680-1-3".[3]"

I not sure of the logic here, but Lightning solved a problem way before USB-C existed and I'm sure, led to support of USB-C standards such as reversible connectors etc...

riatin1y ago

> You don't ever have to leave the Apple App Store, but your preference has no right to enforce an artificial limitation onto other users.

So... just buy an Android? This is not an artificial limitation, it's an express preference that the vast majority of iOS users have voted for.

> The Mac as a product would not exist without third-party software distribution

The Mac is a completely different product servicing a completely different set of needs. Nobody is asking for the iPhone to be able to run Node or Vim so they can do their work, they want to scroll Instagram and reply to their iMessage

arvinsim1y ago

Both your statements are just arbitrary You are not representative of all iPhone users.

saagarjha1y ago

Plenty of people are asking for that, actually. I suggest you look through the App Store for developer tools and report back what you find.

riatin1y ago

I'm sure if it was really that much of an unmet need, Apple would be jumping out of their skin to go and build it and thus rake in the billions of unrealised revenue that must be out there

But they're not, so I'm continue to assume they know what they're doing. Again, go buy an Android if that's what you want

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jahewson1y ago

Apple did not design the USB-C connector, Intel did.

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mrlambchop1y ago

Lightning development started in 2008 as I was there!

I not sure of the logic here, but Lightning solved a problem way before USB-C existed and I'm sure, led to support of USB-C standards such as reversible connectors etc...

riatin1y ago

> You don't ever have to leave the Apple App Store, but your preference has no right to enforce an artificial limitation onto other users.

So... just buy an Android? This is not an artificial limitation, it's an express preference that the vast majority of iOS users have voted for.

> The Mac as a product would not exist without third-party software distribution

arvinsim1y ago

Both your statements are just arbitrary You are not representative of all iPhone users.

saagarjha1y ago

Plenty of people are asking for that, actually. I suggest you look through the App Store for developer tools and report back what you find.

riatin1y ago

I'm sure if it was really that much of an unmet need, Apple would be jumping out of their skin to go and build it and thus rake in the billions of unrealised revenue that must be out there

But they're not, so I'm continue to assume they know what they're doing. Again, go buy an Android if that's what you want

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jahewson1y ago

Apple did not design the USB-C connector, Intel did.

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