I don't like the core concept of routing cables through what is essentially 3d printed trunking. It's a ton of printing, and a ton of faff to install. Instead I use their cable hooks at various points along a cable run. Much quicker and easier to manage after the fact.
This is probably the most useful underware thing I've printed thus far, for securely holding various PSU bricks: https://www.printables.com/model/1119354-double-clip-cable-t...
Get a "Cable Management Box", actually get several.
Everywhere you have a power strip you should have one of these. It helps contain the mess of cords, hides it away, and prevents them from being dust/spider/hair traps you don't want to touch. Shove the extra cable inside the box so you don't have a extra wires laying about. You will absolutely love not seeing a rats nest of cables, even if it's just behind/under something.
I won't link to any product because they are all the same. It's just a plastic box with 2 holes/slots on the sides and a lid. It's stupid-simple but it's worth every penny. If the box is visible I guess you could spring for the more expensive ones but I usually get a 2-3 pack for $20-30. I don't think I've ever bought the same brand twice since are all the same and I just pick the cheapest that fit my needs (size).
Search for "Cable Management Box" and you'll find it.
You'll probably also be interesting in "6-Inch Power Extension Cable", they are great for wall warts. You can plug multiple of these into a power strip and then hang the large heads off to the side (instead of blocking multiple ports). And all of that stays tucked away in your cable management box.
Dead appliances have their cords cut off and chucked in a box, when I need a few inches more length I put a female plug on the other end. Either that or I open the device and put a longer cord on it, but that’s extra effort.
For folks looking for some other options I bought this cheap server raceway: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00008VFAP. Super nice to run the cables into the slots and then let the mess be inside there. I screwed one part into the desk and the cover I cut into 4 pieces so I can remove only one piece if I need to move cords around or whatever.
3d printed a few pieces for power supplies and a power strip but for the most part all cables go to the raceway. I had something similar to this original "underware" at some point but it was a pain in the ass whenever I changed cables/etc. So many extra holes in the bottom of my desk now
So the idea is that you put a lattice up with "a few" screws and then you can change everything else underneath without having to screw around any further.
These models themselves are CC-BY-NC-SA, which is not open source because of the non-commercial restriction. Non-commercial is also vague, and my understanding is that with 3D printing some people using the license have even argued that NC prevents users from ordering prints from a print service rather than printing on their own printer, or prevents someone from being reimbursed for filament costs.
To make matters worse, however, these rely on Multiboard for mounting, which is decidedly not open source. Multiboard uses its own, long, proprietary license [1]. Amongst other things, it appears:
- you cannot print it for anything other than your own personal use (no printing for others, even for free), and agree to never give or even loan any printed items to anyone; you even agree that you won't 'encourage' third-parties to give physical prints to anyone else,
- you cannot publish modified versions unless they are "substantial", and you agree to license any of your modifications to them (their 'non-binding summary' says that license doesn't include selling them, but the binding license itself definitely seems to include it),
- you agree that you won't 'do anything at all contrary to the interests of' the company,
- the company can at any time, for any reason, terminate your (or everyone's) ability to make modified designs, and can also terminate your license entirely for any breach of the license (which, remember, would include doing anything at all contrary to their interests). It's not entirely clear what that termination would mean for physical prints: at best, it would make it impossible for you to expand a system you already have, though I would not be surprised if the company tried to claim it would prohibit you from using the items you've already printed.
[1]: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C0-Iyxydqk_d2I3o_5ualJ9Y...
The page itself, however, does incorrectly describe Underware as "open-source":
> Open-source design - The whole solution is open-source, so feel free to extend and come up with your own brilliant solutions.
I guess there is some automatic translation going on. I've said it a thousand times but I can say it again:
There are very few universal truths in life but here's one: Do not use uncalled for automatic translations. Ever. Certainly no type of translation without prooreading.
It is deeply disrespectful of your users. Should they want to read the page in another language than it was published in, there is a perfectly functional button in their web browser.
Your users get by on the rest of the web, and they can surely manage your page. Unless they have to hunt for the existence of your home cooked "language" setting, which may or may not even exist, without which they have to guess which words translate to underpants. It may be fun the first time, but believe me, it gets boring quickly. Any web shop that presents me with a butchered version of my locale gets closed immediately without giving it any further attention.
That tool is particularly bad as it somehow decides that underware is similar enough to underwear that it should map the word to the word for underpants in my language. The rest of the page is a little better, but not by much. But the problem here isn't the quality of tool itself which results in particularly amusing choice of words but by the use of the tool itself.
Don't do that. If the end user wants to read your page in a different language, they are perfectly capable of clicking that button in their web browser and deal with the outcome themselves.
Just don't. I will not hunt down the language selection button on your badly translated web site and I will not change my web browser settings for your site alone. I will simply choose not to visit your web site, and I suspect many others will do the same.
Strange enough, the description has a hint about the translation, and I even can turn it off to get the English original, but this is not working on the Headline or the website itself.
Not likely. No one ever felt included by an automatic translation. It is impersonal and clearly comes off as such.
Stastical translation tools are tremendous and helps me regularly to understand the gist of texts in other languages, but I understand that it is at best an approximation and I am prepared that the details may be somewhat off.
Being presented a butchered text where key words must be guessed what they were translated from is deeply disrespectful of other language speakers, yes. It really is. Why else serve them a second-rate quality web page? A translation can only make the text worse. It can not make the text better. This time it was only a question of underpants but sometimes the result can include literal insults.
> because what else would an attempt at translating content be?
Misguided?
I'm trying to be kind and helpful here: Please stop this. It is not helpful, and every popular web browser already offers a drop down menu bar button with a translation tool that is not only potentially better but also under user control. There is no upside to this user hostile design and the downside is that it is confusing and potentially derogatory.
For things like the bottom of my desk, I use a cable stapler to attach gear ties. You can easily add or remove a cable without tools.
I know, gear ties are kind of expensive. You can get cheap plant wire+foam thingies if you want.
Zip-ties are good for permanent or needs-to-be-secure situations, but I rarely guess right on "permanent". Then I need to dig out a cable nipper and another properly sized zip tie to make changes.
I switched to Underware last year, I didn't do any channels, just hangers and plates I could stick to my power strips and bricks and dock. It's really secure, really easy to adjust, and I've been very happy with it.
I also put it on the side of my bedside table, where I have a power strip, and 2 USB power supplies, and I really like it. Especially like that I can clip one off and travel with it, before I had the 3M command strips velcro, but it kept falling off.
I also printed out the multigrid and some holders for my lawn watering tools. I have a post that I mount my hose reels to, front and back, and I put multigrid on it. Then I made some holders that my "quick connect" hose connectors slot into, so I can just dock them there.
I initially just hanged them off pegs, but eventually the variations became so many I had to figure something else out. At the moment, they're just separated into boxes by what domain (more or less) they belong to, but surely there has to be a better way? I want them accessible but not in the way.
Yeah no, horrible solution TBH. They don't take a lot of space and I don't really want to get rid of stuff I know I'll eventually need, even if only once per year.
Why is the maker and her site so porny but not porn? I thought I had clicked the wrong Instagram link and had ended up on an Only Fans model with all the downblouse shots, but it’s never mentioned or sold, just talks about the project.
Other comments here shed some light on this.
Apparently the original creator was aiming to create a system that managed the wires under her desk, and named it underwire. An underwire is a part of some bras, which is how they got to the suggestive branding.
It looks like this is version 2.0 of the project / a fork of the project so they changed the name slightly to underware, as in 'hardware under your desk, to manage wires'
So it's a bit off for me (use sex to sell beer; tell me I'm smart to sell nerd stuff) but at least it makes sense now.
Hope that helps!
Sex sells.
The logo is a breast with nipple.
If that is giving you porn vibes, then that's a you problem.
I was more put off by how long the video is and how little the actual underware system is on display. It seems more like a branding exercise for the person in the video. Contrast that to the tirst gridfinity video [1] which yea also has terrible puns and wordplay, but which spends way more time showing off the project.
Almost pleasantly surprised that it was legitimately background to the concept and not yet another monetization strategy
Will report back how the 3D-printing goes.
https://file.app.ikea.cn/cn/en/images/products/bekant-desk-s...
I wonder how many people here on HN will get outraged about nipples.
Anyone care to recommend some suitable (and beginner friendly) printers?
This weekend I designed and printed out a routing template for routing out door hinges onto door jambs. I had bought a tool for doing it on doors then realized it wouldn't help me on the other side.
Stick to some matte pla to begin with and with the a1/a1 mini it's as close as you can get to plug and play.
Also check out grifinity if this project appeals to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v2PfSuDJAE&t=282s
My next desk, I've been done with wires.
Several business that used to print PCB's also do 3d printing at very competitive rates.
I won't advertise names but it's easily found online. You simple upload a stl file, select a material and that's kind of it.
This also means that the "Open Source" in the title is incorrect.
I do not want to deal with a Captcha so I do not know what the article is about. But the 2 posts here seems to be happy.
