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0 pointsknubie1y ago0 comments

Yes I'm sure the Danes are wishing they had purchased their fifth generation fighters from China or Russia instead.

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Alternatively they could have went with not 5 generation, but still extremely good Gripen.

It's electronic warfare capabilities have reportedly surprised Nato pilots in exercises before.

Extremely good is getting a bit over the top. The Gripen was designed in the 80's and it shows. It cannot really compare with something like the F-22 or 35 on anything substantial except cost. And if you're optimizing for cost, it becomes a question of how many pilots you're willing to lose to make it fulfill realistic roles.

valdiorn1y ago

Which jet will they prefer if they need to defend Greenland? A dated and affordable gripen, or an F35 that the Americans will just beam a kill -9 command to via a backdoor?

__loam1y ago

Gripen has an American engine and uses American licensed missiles.

eitland1y ago

Can probably also use other missiles but I agree we need to get rid of all US dependencies and I guess a lot of effort is going on now to see what can be done to get rid of the American engine.

Maybe a cooperation with French (Safran) or British (Rolls Royce) industry could remove their reliance on the Americans? (Not suggesting overnight but over the next 2 - 7 years.)

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justin661y ago

The best medium range missile usable from a Gripen is the Meteor, which is a European product. Of course the issue is that production isn’t high enough.

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xdennis1y ago

Presumably you can't brick an engine. The F-35 can be.

bambax1y ago

There's zero chance the F35s will even be able to take off when the US attacks Greenland, while the chance of Chinese planes defending Denmark from the US is non-zero.

Also, they could have bought European planes (Rafale).

davikr1y ago

The Chinese and Russian would certainly have provided continued support if they were on the other end of a conflict, differently from the Evil Bad American Empire.

xdennis1y ago

That money could have been used on drones or other weapons rather than buying expensive paper weights.

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eitland1y ago

Alternatively they could have went with not 5 generation, but still extremely good Gripen.

It's electronic warfare capabilities have reportedly surprised Nato pilots in exercises before.

simonsarris1y ago

valdiorn1y ago

Which jet will they prefer if they need to defend Greenland? A dated and affordable gripen, or an F35 that the Americans will just beam a kill -9 command to via a backdoor?

__loam1y ago

Gripen has an American engine and uses American licensed missiles.

eitland1y ago

Can probably also use other missiles but I agree we need to get rid of all US dependencies and I guess a lot of effort is going on now to see what can be done to get rid of the American engine.

Maybe a cooperation with French (Safran) or British (Rolls Royce) industry could remove their reliance on the Americans? (Not suggesting overnight but over the next 2 - 7 years.)

1 more reply

justin661y ago

The best medium range missile usable from a Gripen is the Meteor, which is a European product. Of course the issue is that production isn’t high enough.

1 more reply

xdennis1y ago

Presumably you can't brick an engine. The F-35 can be.

bambax1y ago

There's zero chance the F35s will even be able to take off when the US attacks Greenland, while the chance of Chinese planes defending Denmark from the US is non-zero.

Also, they could have bought European planes (Rafale).

davikr1y ago

The Chinese and Russian would certainly have provided continued support if they were on the other end of a conflict, differently from the Evil Bad American Empire.

xdennis1y ago

That money could have been used on drones or other weapons rather than buying expensive paper weights.

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