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0 pointsepistasis1y ago0 comments

> Do his supporters really want this?

After many long discussions, I can only conclude it less about the values of the supporters and more about their psychology.

His supporters want whatever he wants, as long as it means that the right people get bullied. There's not much deeper thought than that.

It's very sad to see people that I respected debase their own principles so that they can remain proud Trump supporters. Their identity appears tied to the decision, and I know only one person who had the principles to to respond to any of Trump's actions with "OK these people actually have no clue what they are doing." (Which was in response to their treatment of Zelensky in the Oval Office).

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sillyfluke1y ago

>His supporters want whatever he wants, as long as it means that the right people get bullied.

Yeah, pretty much. Everyone in this thread should be able to craft a Trump line that's easily digestible by his base on this point by now. In this specific case it's "I don't want to give US weapons to anyone who won't act in our (my) national interest on every issue." Once you empower him to decide what is or is not in the US national interest, there's not much you need in the way of convincing. It's only when his policies start hurting his voters individually that they'll maybe start questioning whether what Trump claims is American national interest is actually in their own interest or not.

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sillyfluke1y ago

>His supporters want whatever he wants, as long as it means that the right people get bullied.

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