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0 pointsgcp13y ago0 comments

When he said Android sucks he presumably evaluated a number of attributes of both iOS and Android and concluded that iOS outperforms Android in those he cares about.

He's now finding out the hard way that "openness" may have been an attribute the importance of which he underestimated.

And just like the tens of other iOS developers that came to whine here when the same happened to them: you knew what you were getting into and chose to ignore it at your own peril.

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sturadnidge13y ago

That's all well and good, but there's no irony there. As statictype I believe was suggesting.

It only would have been ironic had jwz elected to develop for iOS because he thought the Android app store policy sucked, to find that the Apple app store policy sucked more. Which is not the case here.

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gcpOP13y ago

There's some level of irony in 2 areas:

1) He disses Android harshly, yet ends up complaining about Apple not that much later. 2) He disses Android for "sucking", yet the area he complains about is one where iOS sucks compared to Android.

I think this qualifies as irony: incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.

sturadnidge13y ago

Nope - as batista points out, it only would have been ironic had jwz elected to develop for iOS because he thought the Android app store policy sucked, to find that the Apple app store policy sucked more. Which is not the case here.

batista13y ago

>There's some level of irony in 2 areas: 1) He disses Android harshly, yet ends up complaining about Apple not that much later. 2) He disses Android for "sucking", yet the area he complains about is one where iOS sucks compared to Android.

That a platform sucks doesn't mean that it cannot have some strong points compared to some other platform.

Is it "ironic" if I say: "The North Pole sucks as a place to live", and then move to Miami and get a sun burn? Does that fact suddenly make the North Pole any more habitable?

batista13y ago

>When he said Android sucks he presumably evaluated a number of attributes of both iOS and Android and concluded that iOS outperforms Android in those he cares about. He's now finding out the hard way that "openness" may have been an attribute the importance of which he underestimated.

No irony.

It would only be ironic if he had said that without knowing that the iPhone "sucks more" in regards to openness --but he made the above statement fully knowing the iOS situation re: openness.

He is no RMS --it's not like he's gonna use a sucky (according to his tastes) mobile OS just because it's open.

Doesn't make much sense to use an inferior (to your tastes) phone platform just because you could add your own apps to it. Except if your primary motivation for having a phone is tinkering with it.

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sturadnidge13y ago

That's all well and good, but there's no irony there. As statictype I believe was suggesting.

[Edited to include clarification]

gcpOP13y ago

There's some level of irony in 2 areas:

1) He disses Android harshly, yet ends up complaining about Apple not that much later. 2) He disses Android for "sucking", yet the area he complains about is one where iOS sucks compared to Android.

I think this qualifies as irony: incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.

sturadnidge13y ago

batista13y ago

That a platform sucks doesn't mean that it cannot have some strong points compared to some other platform.

Is it "ironic" if I say: "The North Pole sucks as a place to live", and then move to Miami and get a sun burn? Does that fact suddenly make the North Pole any more habitable?

batista13y ago

No irony.

It would only be ironic if he had said that without knowing that the iPhone "sucks more" in regards to openness --but he made the above statement fully knowing the iOS situation re: openness.

He is no RMS --it's not like he's gonna use a sucky (according to his tastes) mobile OS just because it's open.

Doesn't make much sense to use an inferior (to your tastes) phone platform just because you could add your own apps to it. Except if your primary motivation for having a phone is tinkering with it.

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