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0 pointskvakerok1y ago0 comments

Pre Microsoft Skype was malware-grade good. I still remember sysadmins imploding in impotent rage as it near effortlessly evaded their firewalling attempts.

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echelon1y ago· 6 in thread

2000's era P2P was wickedly good.

P2P was such an interesting part of internet history. It's a shame client-server prevailed over it.

Decentralized systems are so much more liberating. It felt like being a part of something rather than being a serf in someone's platform.

1970-01-011y ago

>2000's era P2P was wickedly good.

I think it's only the WWW that went from wickedly good to sour and evil. The P2P world is just as good as it used to be, just not as force-fed and loud as the unhinged hellscape that is Web 2.0. If you look, you will probably find whatever you're looking for with just a DHT link.

anacrolix1y ago

This. The tech works and is great. But it's not in the interests of the megacorps that took over from 2008ish onwards.

What would you recommend these days? All I know is 2000s software like Shareaza, LimeWire, Gnutella, etc.

I think that NAT is a major reason why P2P and self hosting failed to take off in any significant way. I think that the internet would have been a wildly different place were IPv6 widespread in the early '00s.

Saris1y ago

I wonder why NAT hole punching techniques never took off much with P2P, it seems like with enough work getting around NAT most of the time would be possible.

fuzztester1y ago

Jini may be an example:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jini

I remember Bill Venners used to write about it on his site artima.com .

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