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0 pointsenragedcacti1y ago0 comments

I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery.

Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit flush with the frame in a huge circular cutout just below the back glass. The hole weakens the frame so the frame has to be thicker because of it.

I don't think there is really a world where this phone gets 6 more hours of battery life while still having magsafe and fitting into the existing shape of the iPhone 14.

https://youtu.be/mFuyX1XgJFg?t=227

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Reason0771y ago

> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery"

According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.

enragedcactiOP1y ago

IMO somebody just made that up based on it sharing the outer dimensions of the iPhone 14 which also happens to have exactly 3279 mAh. I can't really figure out what "larger battery" could mean in their release video if it isn't larger than at least the 14 if not the 16.

Reason0771y ago

The iPhone 16e is based on the iPhone 14 chassis, with various internal hardware components swapped out. Just like the previous iPhone SE was based on the iPhone 8. So I guess there was an assumption that maybe it uses the same battery as the 14.

But given that the cameras got swapped out for a single lens, the MagSafe magnets were removed, etc, it’s certainly conceivable that they freed up space internally for a larger battery in the 16e!

xattt1y ago

I can’t understand how someone can say with certainty the capacity down to a single digit (3279).

There would be manufacturing differences that would induce at least some variation from phone-to-phone.

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HnUser121y ago

Though, the youtube commercial states new internal design “optimized for new battery”.

snailmailstare1y ago

Sounds reasonable, but why can't we just compare it, the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something?

enragedcactiOP1y ago

Apple generally doesn't publish their battery specs so we'll have to wait for it to get into reviewers hands

selcuka1y ago

> the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something

It can easily be measured from the time required to fully charge the phone (when turned off), and continuously monitoring the power it draws from the charger.

cirrus31y ago

I'm pretty sure it isn't even that complicated. Reviewers just open it up and just look at the battery.

The exact mAh is only secret until the first non-Apple person who wants to know gets one.

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whyenot1y ago

With almost everyone using a case, magsafe doesn’t really need to be in the phone, it would probably be fine if it’s just in the case.

amazingman1y ago

A lot of cases pass through the MagSafe. I personally charge almost exclusively via MagSafe desk and night stands. My phone is in a case.

hombre_fatal1y ago

I found that this heats up the battery thus shortening its lifespan for no good reason if a cable is available.

arijun1y ago

I don’t understand—if the frame is in the middle why can’t the MagSafe go on the outside?

enragedcactiOP1y ago

It could, but as it is all the components are directly against the back glass. The magnets have thickness so the phone would have to be thicker or the battery would have to be thinner for everything to fit.

Reason0771y ago

It can. You can get a case that simply adds the MagSafe(/Qi2) alignment magnets and then you've got a MagSafe device (albeit limited to 7.5W charging)

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0 pointsenragedcacti1y ago0 comments

I don't think there is really a world where this phone gets 6 more hours of battery life while still having magsafe and fitting into the existing shape of the iPhone 14.

https://youtu.be/mFuyX1XgJFg?t=227

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Reason0771y ago

> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery"

According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.

enragedcactiOP1y ago

Reason0771y ago

But given that the cameras got swapped out for a single lens, the MagSafe magnets were removed, etc, it’s certainly conceivable that they freed up space internally for a larger battery in the 16e!

xattt1y ago

I can’t understand how someone can say with certainty the capacity down to a single digit (3279).

There would be manufacturing differences that would induce at least some variation from phone-to-phone.

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HnUser121y ago

Though, the youtube commercial states new internal design “optimized for new battery”.

snailmailstare1y ago

Sounds reasonable, but why can't we just compare it, the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something?

enragedcactiOP1y ago

Apple generally doesn't publish their battery specs so we'll have to wait for it to get into reviewers hands

selcuka1y ago

> the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something

It can easily be measured from the time required to fully charge the phone (when turned off), and continuously monitoring the power it draws from the charger.

cirrus31y ago

I'm pretty sure it isn't even that complicated. Reviewers just open it up and just look at the battery.

The exact mAh is only secret until the first non-Apple person who wants to know gets one.

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whyenot1y ago

With almost everyone using a case, magsafe doesn’t really need to be in the phone, it would probably be fine if it’s just in the case.

amazingman1y ago

A lot of cases pass through the MagSafe. I personally charge almost exclusively via MagSafe desk and night stands. My phone is in a case.

hombre_fatal1y ago

I found that this heats up the battery thus shortening its lifespan for no good reason if a cable is available.

arijun1y ago

I don’t understand—if the frame is in the middle why can’t the MagSafe go on the outside?

enragedcactiOP1y ago

Reason0771y ago

It can. You can get a case that simply adds the MagSafe(/Qi2) alignment magnets and then you've got a MagSafe device (albeit limited to 7.5W charging)

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