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0 pointsjchw1y ago0 comments

If you have a system that's actually big or complex enough to warrant using Kubernetes, which, to be frank, isn't really that much considering the realities of production, the only thing more complex than Kubernetes is implementing the same concepts but half-assed.

I really wonder why this opinion is so commonly accepted by everyone. I get that not everything needs most Kubernetes features, but it's useful. The Linux kernel is a dreadfully complex beast full of winding subsystems and full of screaming demons all over. eBPF, namespaces, io_uring, cgroups, SE Linux, so much more, all interacting with eachother in sometimes surprising ways.

I suspect there is a decent likelihood that a lot of sysadmins have a more complete understanding of what's going on in Kubernetes than in Linux.

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motorest1y ago

> If you have a system that's actually big or complex enough to warrant using Kubernetes (...)

I think there's a degree of confusion over your understanding of what Kubernetes is.

Kubernetes is a platform to run containerized applications. Originally it started as a way to simplify the work of putting together clusters of COTS hardware, but since then its popularity drove it to become the platform instead of an abstraction over other platforms.

What this means is that Kubernetes is now a standard way to deploy cloud applications, regardless of complexity or scale. Kubernetes is used to deploy apps to raspberry pis, one-box systems running under your desk, your own workstation, one or more VMs running on random cloud providers, and AWS. That's it.

jchwOP1y ago

I'm not sure what your point is.

motorest1y ago

> I'm not sure what your point is.

My point is that the mere notion of "a system that's actually big or complex enough to warrant using Kubernetes" is completely absurd, and communicates a high degree of complete cluelessness over the whole topic.

Do you know what's a system big enough for Kubernetes? It's a single instance of a single container. That's it. Kubernetes is a container orchestration system. You tell it to run a container, and it runs it. That's it.

See how silly it all becomes once you realize these things?

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0 pointsjchw1y ago0 comments

I suspect there is a decent likelihood that a lot of sysadmins have a more complete understanding of what's going on in Kubernetes than in Linux.

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motorest1y ago

> If you have a system that's actually big or complex enough to warrant using Kubernetes (...)

I think there's a degree of confusion over your understanding of what Kubernetes is.

jchwOP1y ago

I'm not sure what your point is.

motorest1y ago

> I'm not sure what your point is.

See how silly it all becomes once you realize these things?

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