It's pretty useful to remind people that buying a tesla is supporting Musk.

I think the downvotes is for essentially doing what you are criticizing when you point out a certain thing someone said that hurt you.

They were making an effort to stay on topic (reliability issues with Tesla's cars). You're making it about divisiveness.

The ethical considerations around Tesla are pretty bizarre. It gets political, since the owner of the company is so deeply associated with both the cars and politics.

I don't think your comment comes from a bad place, I understand the fatigue and the desparation. However, when someone in power does something "divisive" (quotes, because its the understatement of the decade - you can probably come up with examples) and people who mention it, even by not mentioning it, are told to be quiet because they are being divisive - it can come off as trying to silence people and ensure no criticizism can be raised.

Again, I don't think that was your intention but it has that effect either way.

I would read that as "I'm specifically excluding talking points and discussion on ethics in this subject and focusing solely on the talking point at hand"

That doesn't generally mean they have an ethical take, just that they recognise such things might exist and they specifically don't want to get in to it.

Is that not what you want ?

> And in come the downvotes, for speaking up against divisiveness. Doesn't that make you feel.. something?

I'd assume it was because you were claiming divisiveness when the cause of such divisiveness was specifically excluded.

Actually I'm curious if there is some kind of representative poll among Tesla owners about whether their personal ethics still align with the company's (or rather, its owner's) ethics. I mean, this is the guy who as recently as 2017 quit as an advisor for the first Trump administration because of Trump exiting the Paris climate agreement (https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/news/elon-musk-resigns-trum...). Now I'm not sure which of the two alternatives is worse: that he has had a complete 180° turnaround of his moral compass, or that he was just pretending to care for the environment as long as it suited him?

> I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience.

Ironically, buying a Tesla is nowadays a very visible political statement.

Personally I draw the line somewhere before not funding someone who does nazi salutes. But you do you.