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0 pointshnfong1y ago0 comments

> Is there any other possible outcome than a fine?

Yes, of course.

It's quite possible that judges realize that if they restrict training data to licensed materials, LLMs will become stupid and China will overtake the US to become the leader in AI, and because that can't happen, they'll make up some reason to make training on unlicensed data legal. It's definitely fair use!

I'm not even joking. Last time the US Supreme Court basically said "Android is too important, we have to declare its use of Java API fair use."

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aprilthird20211y ago

> Last time the US Supreme Court basically said "Android is too important, we have to declare its use of Java API fair use."

Yes, I remember that case. I do think a hefty fine can be sufficient here though. Meta has been paying out court ordered fines for years, none of which dent their growth much. And current models are trained on those models + datasets are scrubbed more vigorously now so future rehashes of this shouldn't be an issue. Also, most data online has already been hoovered up, according to Ilya the former Chief Scientist of OpenAI, so this will likely not pop back up again.

But good point, courts are often more practical given the law than we perceive them to be.

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aprilthird20211y ago

> Last time the US Supreme Court basically said "Android is too important, we have to declare its use of Java API fair use."

But good point, courts are often more practical given the law than we perceive them to be.

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