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0 pointsspacebanana71y ago0 comments

> I think using any of this in a national security setting is stupid

What about AI enabled drones and guided missiles/rockets? The case for their effectiveness is relatively simple in terms of jamming resistance.

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swiftcoder1y ago

drone and missile guidance system development has been using ML for decades at this point. That's just as much "AI" as anything currently coming out of the LLM craze.

int_19h1y ago

It's not just target guidance at this point. There are prototypes of drone swarms, for example.

pjc501y ago

Like a lot of AI boosters, would you like to explain how that works other than magic AI dust? Some forms of optical guidance are already in use, but there's other limitations (lighting! weather!)

spacebanana7OP1y ago

Sure thing. The basic idea would be:

1) Have a camera on your drone 2) Run some frames through a locally running version of something like AWS Rekognition's celebrity identification service but for relevant military targets. 3) Navigate towards coordinates of target individuals

It isn't exactly magic, here's a video of a guy doing navigation with openCV on images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrzs3dQ9exw

Hauthorn1y ago

I believe this is a capability that the Switchblade 600 or STM KARGU already has.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu

theGnuMe1y ago

I think jamming resistance is a red herring. AI weapons will have their own failure modes due to jamming. Any sensor modality will have its own particular weakness. Also reasoning model malfunctions as well i.e. hallucinations.

Not to mention false GPS etc...

amarcheschi1y ago

I would say that they don't require an 500bln$ investment. AFAIK, drone that help lock on target have started being used in Ukraine

spacebanana7OP1y ago

I generally agree, piggybacking on innovations in smartphone GPUs / batteries will probably be enough to get locally running AI models in drones.

GTP1y ago

This somehow reminds me of a certain killer robot from a Black Mirror episode ;)

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swiftcoder1y ago

drone and missile guidance system development has been using ML for decades at this point. That's just as much "AI" as anything currently coming out of the LLM craze.

int_19h1y ago

It's not just target guidance at this point. There are prototypes of drone swarms, for example.

pjc501y ago

Like a lot of AI boosters, would you like to explain how that works other than magic AI dust? Some forms of optical guidance are already in use, but there's other limitations (lighting! weather!)

spacebanana7OP1y ago

Sure thing. The basic idea would be:

It isn't exactly magic, here's a video of a guy doing navigation with openCV on images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrzs3dQ9exw

Hauthorn1y ago

I believe this is a capability that the Switchblade 600 or STM KARGU already has.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu

theGnuMe1y ago

Not to mention false GPS etc...

amarcheschi1y ago

I would say that they don't require an 500bln$ investment. AFAIK, drone that help lock on target have started being used in Ukraine

spacebanana7OP1y ago

I generally agree, piggybacking on innovations in smartphone GPUs / batteries will probably be enough to get locally running AI models in drones.

GTP1y ago

This somehow reminds me of a certain killer robot from a Black Mirror episode ;)

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