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0 pointsamluto1y ago0 comments

Go read the article. All of this is a few drops in the bucket. There are some absolutely enormous line items that, by themselves, put us well into deficit territory.

On top of that, these things make the US money. We have, by far, the strongest pharmaceutical and medical technology industry anywhere. Those companies pay taxes.

(Those companies also screw us and the government over in myriad ways, and that should be addressed, but cutting off the research system that supports the entire industry in like throwing out the baby without even draining the bathwater.)

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stainablesteel1y ago

the "drops in the bucket" mindset is the problem, the federal government absurdly overspends and we've not had any serious politicians to address the issue. the interest on our debt is going to bankrupt us and there will be nothing left afterwards if these things aren't reeled in and examined.

political opponents of the newly elected administration are obviously going to go fully hysterical over any change, they already did last time. the science industries in the US aren't going anywhere, neither is research at the universities.

the ideological discrimination and money laundering coming out of these departments are going to end. and did we all forget about COVID? The fact that the NIH funded the research that happened in china ILLEGALLY, because this was a really stupid idea and we found that out the hard way, and it was covered up, and we were lied to, it killed millions, destroyed economies on a global scale.... do we really not want to see this agency dissected under a microscope? They need to be investigated.

bad_haircut721y ago

I feel like were on the same side but youre gonna need a (credible!) source that US govt money was funding virus research in China, that doesnt seem to pass the sniff test

stainablesteel1y ago

is this sarcasm? it's been known for years and we got some more "official" info recently

this is the grant, but this was public info for years https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Year-...

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amlutoOP1y ago

> the "drops in the bucket" mindset is the problem, the federal government absurdly overspends

The federal government almost certainly does absurdly overspend, but you’re missing the point: all of these drops in the bucket add up to far less than the deficit.

Also, for better or for worse, operating departments efficiently may well be the executive branch’s job, but setting all these budgets is Congress’s job, not the executive branch’s. In fact, Congress tried, not all that long ago, to allow the President to veto specific line items, and the Supreme Court struck it down:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._City_of_New_York

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0 pointsamluto1y ago0 comments

Go read the article. All of this is a few drops in the bucket. There are some absolutely enormous line items that, by themselves, put us well into deficit territory.

On top of that, these things make the US money. We have, by far, the strongest pharmaceutical and medical technology industry anywhere. Those companies pay taxes.

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stainablesteel1y ago

bad_haircut721y ago

I feel like were on the same side but youre gonna need a (credible!) source that US govt money was funding virus research in China, that doesnt seem to pass the sniff test

stainablesteel1y ago

is this sarcasm? it's been known for years and we got some more "official" info recently

this is the grant, but this was public info for years https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Year-...

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amlutoOP1y ago

> the "drops in the bucket" mindset is the problem, the federal government absurdly overspends

The federal government almost certainly does absurdly overspend, but you’re missing the point: all of these drops in the bucket add up to far less than the deficit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._City_of_New_York

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