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0 pointsnerdponx1y ago0 comments

I don't know why you're being downvoted.

> 1. Most Trump supporters do not think that there is a problem.

Talk to any conservative -- even people who are/were skeptical of Trump -- or browse any conservative-leaning social media. It's clear that the people who voted for Trump fully understood what they voted for: they wanted what's happening. Project 2025 is a good thing in the eyes of many. Maybe they think politicizing the whole executive branch is a little distasteful, but in the eyes of literally millions of Americans, it's a means to a well-justified and long-awaited end.

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WgaqPdNr7PGLGVW1y ago

> Maybe they think politicizing the whole executive branch is a little distasteful

They believe it has already been politicized by people who hate them.

nerdponxOP1y ago

That's a great point as well. "They've been doing it to us for decades, what's happening now isn't any worse".

The Project 2025 document is really interesting along those lines as well. It's close to 1000 pages, but you can skim pretty much any section that isn't about the military and get the idea. Politicizing the executive branch is an explicitly stated goal, over and over. And furthermore, the push to disband the department of education is specifically an overly political, not because it's ineffective in its mission, but because it's "a one-stop shop for the woke education cartel" -- and yes that is a direct quote.

csa1y ago

> Maybe they think politicizing the whole executive branch is a little distasteful, but in the eyes of literally millions of Americans, it's a means to a well-justified and long-awaited end.

This is a very tight and succinct summary of many conversations I’ve had with conservative family and acquaintances.

> I don't know why you're being downvoted.

The votes on my comment are going up and down like a yo-yo.

I’m pretty sure it’s because I used the term “regular people”, and I used it in quotes. I get the sense that some people are reading more into that phrase than I intended.

leptons1y ago

One thing conservatives are famously not good at is anticipating the consequences of their actions. What could possibly go wrong with immediately deporting all the people who harvest our crops?

DecoySalamander1y ago

But what if they are replaced by government workers who are made redundant? It might just balance out.

leptons1y ago

I'm not sure how a person working a desk job for the government suddenly being told to work long hours in hot fields picking crops is going to work out. And if you hadn't noticed, most people working for the government don't live in the middle of farmlands or anywhere near them. I'm not sure how you can think this could work out at all.

Your comment also tells me that this was never about immigrants taking our jobs.

You seem to be living in a right-wing fantasy world that really doesn't exist. Things are going to get really bad in the country with this administration, the first two weeks have been extremely messy. No, these policies are definitely not going to lower the price of anything - we're on track for wild inflation with these plans. The leopards are going to be well fed though!

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WgaqPdNr7PGLGVW1y ago

> Maybe they think politicizing the whole executive branch is a little distasteful

They believe it has already been politicized by people who hate them.

nerdponxOP1y ago

That's a great point as well. "They've been doing it to us for decades, what's happening now isn't any worse".

csa1y ago

> Maybe they think politicizing the whole executive branch is a little distasteful, but in the eyes of literally millions of Americans, it's a means to a well-justified and long-awaited end.

This is a very tight and succinct summary of many conversations I’ve had with conservative family and acquaintances.

> I don't know why you're being downvoted.

The votes on my comment are going up and down like a yo-yo.

I’m pretty sure it’s because I used the term “regular people”, and I used it in quotes. I get the sense that some people are reading more into that phrase than I intended.

leptons1y ago

One thing conservatives are famously not good at is anticipating the consequences of their actions. What could possibly go wrong with immediately deporting all the people who harvest our crops?

DecoySalamander1y ago

But what if they are replaced by government workers who are made redundant? It might just balance out.

leptons1y ago

Your comment also tells me that this was never about immigrants taking our jobs.

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