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0 pointsreaperducer1y ago0 comments

Most Scandinavian countries are required to make any communication in public departments (including all coworkers emails) public on request by journalists or anyone interested.

In the U.S., too. In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

But it's all happening so quickly that nobody can keep up with it. And the people who are supposed to take care of these things have been fired.

Also bad, when requests are made by legitimate parties, they are being ignored or dismissed by the new regime.

Let what's happening in the U.S. serve as a warning to you that no matter what laws you pass, electing lawless people brings lawlessness. And the law you passed cannot help you against people who don't respect the law.

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writebetterc1y ago

> In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

This was instituted in Sweden in the year 1766. Source: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offentlighetsprincipen

That's 10 years before the USA declared independence.

reaperducerOP1y ago

I guess we have different definitions of "modern" age.

writebetterc1y ago

>pioneer something when somebody pioneers something, they are one of the first people to do, discover or use something new.

Clubber1y ago

>In the U.S., too. In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

The hack in the US is to just label everything "SECRET," and it's excluded from FOIA.

rahimnathwani1y ago

  In the U.S., too. In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

In practice, at least one San Francisco (city/county-level) department and at least one California (state-level) department deliberately makes it difficult to get responsive records, even though the law requires them to not only provide those records, but help the public identify which records might answer the questions they have.

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0 pointsreaperducer1y ago0 comments

Most Scandinavian countries are required to make any communication in public departments (including all coworkers emails) public on request by journalists or anyone interested.

In the U.S., too. In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

But it's all happening so quickly that nobody can keep up with it. And the people who are supposed to take care of these things have been fired.

Also bad, when requests are made by legitimate parties, they are being ignored or dismissed by the new regime.

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writebetterc1y ago

> In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

This was instituted in Sweden in the year 1766. Source: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offentlighetsprincipen

That's 10 years before the USA declared independence.

reaperducerOP1y ago

I guess we have different definitions of "modern" age.

writebetterc1y ago

>pioneer something when somebody pioneers something, they are one of the first people to do, discover or use something new.

Clubber1y ago

>In the U.S., too. In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

The hack in the US is to just label everything "SECRET," and it's excluded from FOIA.

rahimnathwani1y ago

  In the U.S., too. In fact, it was the United States that pioneered this in the modern age.

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