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0 pointsjacurtis1y ago0 comments

I mean you could impeach him again. But that's doesn't really do anything other than wave a finger at him and says "Naughty naughty".

Hell, the guy is able to re-run and win the elected office again after being impeached a few times during his previous administration. Congress needs to affirm his impeachment to force him out of office and that requires a supermajority, which will never happen. Trump could kill someone on national TV and he would maybe get impeached, but he'd have enough friends in congress defending his actions that he would still be president. I mean he's already a convicted criminal.

That's why he just doesn't care anymore and is going crazy as if no laws exist. Laws mean nothing to him. At worst they are an annoyance or noise to him, but he already proved that nothing can stop him.

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ornornor1y ago

It’s fascinating to watch, from a distance. If I was a US resident, or worse: US citizen, I’d be terrified.

mrkeen1y ago

Your politicians are watching from a distance too, and taking note of what works.

Aeolun1y ago

We have a functioning political system, and not nearly as much power concentrated into the hands of a single person.

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easyThrowaway1y ago

Eh, they've already seen that with the balkans and eastern bloc countries in the 80-90s. You're gonna get a bunch of Orbàn-like small time dictators on every state that once on a while have to bow to the requests of a central-government more interested in its own political intrigues than governing anything.

US Doomers are expecting something similar to the Civil War movie in the next few years, the reality will be more similar to "The Lives Of Others".

senectus11y ago

yes, I've noticed a huge uptick in the right wing party using almost exactly the same language and bullshit moves.

bigiain1y ago

Fiveeyes resident here, and not quite "terrified", but at least "deeply concerned".

"The rest of the world" will not carry on unscathed if the worse end of the range of possible outcomes for the US happen.

(I'm deeply curious about how fiveeyes intelligence operations with Canada are going right now.)

iancmceachern1y ago

We are

dinkumthinkum1y ago

It's worse to be a US citizen? Then why are so many people coming in the US and why are so many people upset about removing the ones that come here illegally? It seems like people should be happy the federal government is giving them free rides away from here if it is so bad ...

proggy1y ago

Giving up the power to do the one thing you are constitutionally permitted to do, just because it doesn’t work for one particularly teflon-coated individual, is incredibly short-sighted.

Yes the reality of the situation is bleak. But to give up on impeachment would cede even more power to the executive branch.

idiotsecant1y ago

He'll wear an impeachment as a badge of honor. The rule of law is a mostly self-supporting system. When nearly the entire edifice of government stops being concerned with it, the system breaks irreparably. We're looking at nothing less than the fall of the Roman empire in speed run, in my opinion.

elif1y ago

I think you are assuming too much love for the guy exists in the Congress which he is effectively obviating.

As the economy crashes, proletariat sentiments will change. If trump is unable to get a war going, or it doesn't develop how he expects, the economy will be the obvious narrative. And if they get trump out before midterms, his endorsement isn't the same thing.

vkou1y ago

> I think you are assuming too much love for the guy exists in the Congress which he is effectively obviating.

You're assuming that the founders were actually correct about a power rivalry between the branches producing a system of checks and balances between them.

As it turns out, when the whole team is rowing in the same direction, congress doesn't actually care that they've abdicated power or all responsibility to check the executive. Their personal comfort is not threatened by it, and this particular congress doesn't care about governing well.

Sure, the republic will be destroyed, but in the meantime, they'll extract a lot of value for their paymasters.

Congressmen that had a spine, and refused to do that all got primaried out.

disgruntledphd21y ago

Which is why the less Trumpy republicans should have supported the anti gerrymandering acts at the start of Bidens term. The primary problem only exists because of gerrymandering.

maxerickson1y ago

The Senate didn't find guilt last time. If they do find guilt, the office is stripped. I don't think it's happening anytime soon, but the failed impeachment doesn't really speak to the consequences of a successful one.

croon1y ago

> The Senate didn't find guilt last time.

That's not true, most just relied on him being a former president at the time of impeachment.

McConnell:

> “Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty…There’s no question — none — that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day… There is no limiting principle in the constitutional text that would empower the Senate to convict and disqualify former officers that would not also let them convict and disqualify any private citizen. ...The Senate’s decision today does not condone anything that happened on or before that terrible day.”

More quotes with sources:

https://www.justsecurity.org/74725/in-their-own-words-the-43...

maxerickson1y ago

It's true in the meaningful, procedural sense, which is obviously what someone would mean with "find guilt".

IX-1031y ago

They'll 25th him before they consider impeachment. Right now Trump is just a useful idiot being puppeteered by the Silicon Valley elite. They got "Just Dance" Vance as VP, so they have a good backup.

All they would really need to do is take the existing Trump "speeches" and present them as the.word salad they are too prove him incapable of serving. That story would viewership so the media would be all over it 24-7. That's one reason Trump is rubber-stamping everything Elon says or does - he knows they have him by the balls.

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ornornor1y ago

It’s fascinating to watch, from a distance. If I was a US resident, or worse: US citizen, I’d be terrified.

mrkeen1y ago

Your politicians are watching from a distance too, and taking note of what works.

Aeolun1y ago

We have a functioning political system, and not nearly as much power concentrated into the hands of a single person.

2 more replies

easyThrowaway1y ago

US Doomers are expecting something similar to the Civil War movie in the next few years, the reality will be more similar to "The Lives Of Others".

senectus11y ago

yes, I've noticed a huge uptick in the right wing party using almost exactly the same language and bullshit moves.

bigiain1y ago

Fiveeyes resident here, and not quite "terrified", but at least "deeply concerned".

"The rest of the world" will not carry on unscathed if the worse end of the range of possible outcomes for the US happen.

(I'm deeply curious about how fiveeyes intelligence operations with Canada are going right now.)

iancmceachern1y ago

We are

dinkumthinkum1y ago

proggy1y ago

Giving up the power to do the one thing you are constitutionally permitted to do, just because it doesn’t work for one particularly teflon-coated individual, is incredibly short-sighted.

Yes the reality of the situation is bleak. But to give up on impeachment would cede even more power to the executive branch.

idiotsecant1y ago

elif1y ago

I think you are assuming too much love for the guy exists in the Congress which he is effectively obviating.

vkou1y ago

> I think you are assuming too much love for the guy exists in the Congress which he is effectively obviating.

You're assuming that the founders were actually correct about a power rivalry between the branches producing a system of checks and balances between them.

Sure, the republic will be destroyed, but in the meantime, they'll extract a lot of value for their paymasters.

Congressmen that had a spine, and refused to do that all got primaried out.

disgruntledphd21y ago

Which is why the less Trumpy republicans should have supported the anti gerrymandering acts at the start of Bidens term. The primary problem only exists because of gerrymandering.

maxerickson1y ago

croon1y ago

> The Senate didn't find guilt last time.

That's not true, most just relied on him being a former president at the time of impeachment.

McConnell:

More quotes with sources:

https://www.justsecurity.org/74725/in-their-own-words-the-43...

maxerickson1y ago

It's true in the meaningful, procedural sense, which is obviously what someone would mean with "find guilt".

IX-1031y ago

They'll 25th him before they consider impeachment. Right now Trump is just a useful idiot being puppeteered by the Silicon Valley elite. They got "Just Dance" Vance as VP, so they have a good backup.

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