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That being said, breaching OAI's systems, re-training a better model on top of their closed source model, then open sourcing it: That's more Robinhood than Villain I'd say.
The Chinese Communist party very much sees itself in a global rivalry over "new productive forces". That's official policy. And US leadership basically agrees.
The US is playing dirty by essentially embargoing China over big AI - why wouldn't it occur to them to retaliate by playing dirtier?
I mean we probably won't know for sure, but it's much less far fetched than a lot of other speculation in this area.
E.g., R1's cold start training could probably have benefited quite a bit from having access to OpenAI's chain of thought data for training. The paper is a bit light on detail on how it was made.
interestingly, that actually makes the CCP the largest political party pursuing state capitalism.
there won't be any competition between China and the US if the CCP is indeed a communist party as we all know full well that communism doesn't work at all.
Of course this is China so the government can and does intervene at will, but alleging that this required CIA level state espionage to pull off is alien crash levels of implausible. They open sourced the entire thing and published incredibly detailed papers on how they did it!
This is not America. Your ideas do not apply the same way.
I'm European, are you talking about Microsoft, Google, or OpenAI?
Are you trolling me?
The evidence supporting offensive hacking is abundant in recent history; the number of things which have been learned from alien crash data is surely smaller by comparison to the number of things which have been learned from offensive hacking.
Meanwhile, they have access to Meta models and Qwen. And Meta models are very easy to run and there's plenty of published work on them. Occam's Razor.
Lot of hoops when there's simply other models to utilize publicly
IMHO the whole world is becoming crazy for a lot of reasons, and pissing off billionaires makes me laugh.
Cheapening a series of fact checkable innovations because of the country of origin when so far all that they have showed are signs of good faith is paranoid at best and propaganda to support the billionaire tech lords saving face for their own arrogance at worst.
And don't forget the billions in partnerships...
I can see why people refuse to pay taxes.
The word "our" does a lot of heavy lifting in politics[0]. America is not a commune, it's a country club, one which we used to own but have been bought out of, and whose new owners view us as moochers but can't actually kick us out (yet). It is in competition with another, worse country club that purports to be a commune. We owe neither country club our loyalty, so when one bloodies the other's nose, I smile.
[0] Some languages have a notion of an "exclusive we". If English had such a concept, this would be an exclusive our.
