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I understand ToS violations can lead to a ban. OpenAI is free to ban DeepSeek from using their APIs.
Yes, there is the question how much ChatGPT data DeepSeek has ingested. Certainly not zero! But if DeepSeek has achieved iterative self-improvement, that'd be huge too!
Even if o1 specifically was used (which is in itself doubtful), it does not mean that this was the main reason that r1 succeeded/it could not have happened without it. The o1 outputs hides the CoT part, which is the most important here. Also we are in 2025, scratch does not exist anymore. Creating better technology building upon previous (widely available) technology has never been a controversial issue.
who cares. even if the claim is true, does that make the open source model less attractive?
in fact, it implies that there is no moat in this game. openai can no longer maintain its stupid valuation, as other companies can just scrape its output and build better models at much lower costs.
everything points to the exact same end result - DeepSeek democratized AI, OpenAI's old business model is dead.
Yes! Because whether they reproduced those capabilities independently or copying them from relying on downstream data has everything to do with whether they're actually state of the art.
If your own API can leak your secret sauce without any malicious penetration, well, that's on you.
