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0 pointss1artibartfast1y ago0 comments

There is usually a difference between 'did nothing wrong' and primary responsibility.

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stouset1y ago· 2 in thread

In this case, DAL neither did anything wrong nor bears any responsibility.

They were being controlled by ATC, ATC told them where to fly. ATC erred.

If ATC put them straight into a Mountain, would it be correct to dutifully fly into it, or would that be an error on the pilot side?

My understanding is that Pilots are also required to review NOTAMs. There are tons of systems and operations with redundancy built in. An error in the primary does not negate an error in the backup. In fact, it is often the only way you learn of errors with the backup.

stouset1y ago

ATC instruction can be countermanded in the event of gross error or emergency.

That said, ATC instructions are to be followed promptly in the absence of such factors. You don’t get to wait and check hundreds of possible minor and irrelevant NOTAMs to find the before following through on their instruction, on the off chance they’ve completely screwed the pooch and are sending you through a TFR.

ezfe1y ago

Sure, of course if ATC tells them to land on a runway that is clearly occupied they have a responsibility to notice this and override.

In this case, they were directed into an area that was not occupied by an authority that controls the region's airspace. They could have asked ATC about it but ATC has control over the airspace.

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