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10 pointsinc17y ago14 comments

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msie17y ago· 4 in thread

Why aren't they using bittorrent?

I'm sure their legal team has solid justifications for it. What happens if you can grab it from torrent? There is no agreement between you and Microsoft that you do not own the product or have other rights. The firmly accepted way have a legal agreement is to get an agreement. So no torrent.

snprbob8617y ago

Maybe, but I think the bigger issue is that the left hand doesn't know what the right one is doing. Microsoft has a viable bit torrent surrogate which would allow them to force a EULA up front:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_Intelligent_Transfer...

"Version 3.0 (November 2007) Adds peer caching which allows users to download content from peers and also serve content to peers [...]"

Zev17y ago

When Vista's beta came out, MS ran into the same problems. So someone put up a torrent of the iso (On legaltorrents.com i think) and linked to MS's site saying to go there for serials and to file bugs. MS still sent the legal team after it to have the torrent shut down fairly quickly.

Interesting sidenote: Microsoft's research labs made a "Bittorrent Simulator" - http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/20d68689-9a8d-...

chrisbolt17y ago

Why aren't they using a CDN?

wavesplash17y ago· 2 in thread

I'm running Win7 from MSDN here. Honestly if you're on Vista SP2 (pre-release) then there not enough difference in Win7 to waste the upgrade time. (Vista SP2 seems to be pretty stable memory wise - no more swapping/disk grinding for me).

Also note, if you have an older ATI video card you may need to boot into safe mode and remove the old drivers to make the screen readable. I had to run the 2nd half of the install blind (it really is beta).

Final note: watch your MP3's - check the release notes. Seems the install damages them.

Zev17y ago

The difference is, not many people in the public have Vista SP2. Whereas everyone can grab Windows 7 if they so desire.

wavesplash17y ago

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=dca...

DenisM17y ago· 1 in thread

I snatched mine from MSDN two days back. It was actually backed by akamai, I'm not sure why didn't they use the same for non-MSDN subscribers.

ROFISH17y ago

If I had to take a quick guess, it's because Akamai charges by the bandwidth. While your (paid) MSDN account supports the Akamai charges, the general public will just get leftover bandwidth from various services which is 'free'.

patio1117y ago

This totally wouldn't have happened to highly anticipated downloads from Firefox or Apple, which can push their terabytes through pipes made of sheer cool.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/its-firefox-3-world-rec...

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Mac-fans-overload-...

ROFISH17y ago

Windows 7 Beta 32-bit build 7000 en_us :

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-4...

Windows 7 Beta 64-bit build 7000 en_us :

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-4...

I found this on another website, but the links work and it seems real enough.

ScottWhigham17y ago

I thought this going to lead to the "fix" so that Windows 7 doesn't delete the first 3 seconds of every MP3 you have lol.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961367

jodrellblank17y ago

"Urgent information: Your computer needs a scan. You have not scanned for spyware in 0 days".

I was hoping all the niggling non-resizable dialogs and pestering messages would be sorted this time. They aren't, and there are more of them.

Despite that, I like it more than Vista already.

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14 comments

14 comments · 7 top-level

msie17y ago· 4 in thread

Why aren't they using bittorrent?

jhancock17y ago

snprbob8617y ago

Maybe, but I think the bigger issue is that the left hand doesn't know what the right one is doing. Microsoft has a viable bit torrent surrogate which would allow them to force a EULA up front:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_Intelligent_Transfer...

"Version 3.0 (November 2007) Adds peer caching which allows users to download content from peers and also serve content to peers [...]"

Zev17y ago

Interesting sidenote: Microsoft's research labs made a "Bittorrent Simulator" - http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/20d68689-9a8d-...

chrisbolt17y ago

Why aren't they using a CDN?

wavesplash17y ago· 2 in thread

Final note: watch your MP3's - check the release notes. Seems the install damages them.

Zev17y ago

The difference is, not many people in the public have Vista SP2. Whereas everyone can grab Windows 7 if they so desire.

wavesplash17y ago

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=dca...

DenisM17y ago· 1 in thread

I snatched mine from MSDN two days back. It was actually backed by akamai, I'm not sure why didn't they use the same for non-MSDN subscribers.

ROFISH17y ago

patio1117y ago

This totally wouldn't have happened to highly anticipated downloads from Firefox or Apple, which can push their terabytes through pipes made of sheer cool.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/its-firefox-3-world-rec...

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Mac-fans-overload-...

ROFISH17y ago

Windows 7 Beta 32-bit build 7000 en_us :

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-4...

Windows 7 Beta 64-bit build 7000 en_us :

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-4...

I found this on another website, but the links work and it seems real enough.

ScottWhigham17y ago

I thought this going to lead to the "fix" so that Windows 7 doesn't delete the first 3 seconds of every MP3 you have lol.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961367

jodrellblank17y ago

"Urgent information: Your computer needs a scan. You have not scanned for spyware in 0 days".

I was hoping all the niggling non-resizable dialogs and pestering messages would be sorted this time. They aren't, and there are more of them.

Despite that, I like it more than Vista already.

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