Mozilla says "Audio codecs planned: G.711 & Opus. (Although royalty/license-free, we have no plans to support iLBC, iSAC and G.722)", so as it stands Firefox and Chrome could only interop with G.711 (aka uncompressed). https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/Features/WebRTC
If IE, Firefox, Opera, and Chrome support it, there might be enough leverage on Apple to add it to Safari (Mac, iOS, maybe iPod), too. But without Chrome, Apple has the political cover to claim that "nobody uses it," so they can kill it.
"Opus is a hybrid codec that internally uses both, SILK and Celt.
SILK was created by Skype (now Microsoft) and its patent license includes this gem: '5.1 Skype may terminate this License Agreement and any rights granted hereunder in the event that you or any of your Affiliates (i) materially breaches any of the terms and conditions of this Agreement; or (ii) asserts any patent or patent rights against Skype, its Affiliates, or its or their successors or assigns.'
So lets assume Motorola (owned by Google) tries to (counter)sue MS over some Android stuff: Suddenly the patent grant given by Skype becomes invalid and Google might have to remove Opus from Chrome. If it's popular by that time, this is a serious competitive disadvantage.
So better not help making it popular in the first place. "
I guess they're still hurting over that? :)
And Google with their proprietary WebM.
Patent-laden format for which you have to pay multi-million royalties is "industry standard".
Their disgraceful behaviour in blackmailing Microsoft over H.264 FRAND patents is of huge concern to anyone who cares about standards. Companies should be encouraged to get together and define industry standards with fair royalty rates. When that happens we ALL win. Clearly the ITC/EU agree.
Hopefully Google will see the error of its ways and change course.
If you want to talk about bad guys in this mess, it's the companies who ended the détente by suing their competitors. That would be Microsoft and Apple. Asking companies like Motorola, HTC and Samsung to tie their hands behind their backs while Apple and Microsoft shake them down (or try to ban their products) is lunacy.
We need patent sanity in this country. But in the mean time, companies who are attacked have every right to defend themselves by any legal means they have available.
[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Mobility [1] http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sec...
Like the fact that it was Motorola that used their patents to negotiate with Microsoft long before it was acquired by Google. Or the fact that Motorola did it only after Microsoft blackmailed Motorola, using your rhetoric, with their patent portfolio in order to destroy Android not by making better products but by patent bullying.
I left pleased about this new standard (from an advert, any downsides?) but need some patent assurances. If Mozilla are happy will everyone be?
SILK is a speech codec developed by Skype whereas CELT is a general purpose audio codec developed by Xiph.org. Opus can use either of them (to encode speech or e.g. music, respectively) or it can use both codecs simultaneously for high-quality speech.
I'm surprised that 192k is actually indistinguishable. I thought some humans could tell the difference there.
I'd imagine this would have to be at least competitive with mp3/aac/ogg at those rates.
http://www.octasic.com/en/tech/opus_audio_codec.php
In my listening opinion with very good isolated headphones: the music is very good but you can hear the drop-off of the highs in the vocal examples. It's good but not good enough for 'professional' use at the lower bitrates.
/edit: spoken too soon WAV PCM is supported by WebKit, Gecko and Presto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_Audio#.3CAudio.3E_element
Most of the results returned are against old versions of the specification, too.
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