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0 pointsthih91y ago0 comments

The panopticon design was originally intended for schools too, as well as other institutions:

> Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

Whether it’s friendly and encourages healthy development is another question.

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TeMPOraL1y ago

The criticism section of the Wikipedia article focuses on political aspects, but to me, the very idea of keeping someone feeling like they're always watched sounds like psychological torture.

Pet_Ant1y ago

In fairness if you’ve ever been bullied and corned out of view of the teachers, having someone seeing you may feel like a relief.

whythre1y ago

Many of the bullying stories on here involve either a do-nothing response by authorities or both sides being punished. I do not see how constant monitoring ensures any kind of protection or justice.

DrillShopper1y ago

That assumes they'll do anything instead of turn a blind eye.

In my school experience they turned a blind eye unless you fought back in which case they would punish you for fighting back.

kristianbrigman1y ago

And yet, I bet when you make a trade on craigslist (showing my age :), you meet in a public place where people can see you. Why?

TeMPOraL1y ago

Key word is always. It's not just about being observed (with or without knowing when and by whom), but also having no control over it.

Craiglist-mediated exchange is a choice. School, prison or workplace is not - not in any practical sense.

ndriscoll1y ago

I don't think I've ever met in a public place for Craigslist trades. I've always gone to the seller's house. I don't think we've ever sold anything, but when we put something up for free online we just leave it outside and tell them to come get it.

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TeMPOraL1y ago

The criticism section of the Wikipedia article focuses on political aspects, but to me, the very idea of keeping someone feeling like they're always watched sounds like psychological torture.

Pet_Ant1y ago

In fairness if you’ve ever been bullied and corned out of view of the teachers, having someone seeing you may feel like a relief.

whythre1y ago

Many of the bullying stories on here involve either a do-nothing response by authorities or both sides being punished. I do not see how constant monitoring ensures any kind of protection or justice.

DrillShopper1y ago

That assumes they'll do anything instead of turn a blind eye.

In my school experience they turned a blind eye unless you fought back in which case they would punish you for fighting back.

kristianbrigman1y ago

And yet, I bet when you make a trade on craigslist (showing my age :), you meet in a public place where people can see you. Why?

TeMPOraL1y ago

Key word is always. It's not just about being observed (with or without knowing when and by whom), but also having no control over it.

Craiglist-mediated exchange is a choice. School, prison or workplace is not - not in any practical sense.

ndriscoll1y ago

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