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0 pointspc861y ago0 comments

Yes I see you doing this all over the thread italicizing the same words and using them slightly differently, I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove.

ADA predates DEI by a couple decades. Lots of people, including Republicans, support the ADA and support expanding its protections.

This is a pretty standard tactic of partisans when their pet issue becomes unpopular - take something unrelated, or at best tangentially related, and pretend it's related or that that's what they've been advocating for all along.

I don't care if you support the ADA or you don't. I don't care if you support DEI or you don't. But they're different, they've never been related, and any attempt by partisans on the left to lump them together is just trying to reframe the issue as "against DEI == against the ADA" because of course everyone on the right hates disabled people right?

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dalmo31y ago

It's called Motte and Bailey fallacy.

ceejayoz1y ago

False allegations of that are themselves a fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh-pooh

ceejayoz1y ago

> Lots of people, including Republicans, support the ADA and support expanding its protections.

Now, sure. At the time? Same sort of bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_with_Disabilities_Ac...

Both are rooted in the same concept - that people should have fair opportunity to participate in society even if different in some ways.

pc86OP1y ago

Scroll up a couple lines from your link and take a look at the sponsor, who Republicans nominated to be President. So no, your partisan assertion is nonsense.

ceejayoz1y ago

Tom Harkin? The Democrat?

Are we to think that the Republican party of 1990 - of the Bushes and the Cheneys and the Romneys - is the same as the Republican party of 2025 that has driven them out of the org?

pc86OP1y ago

We're both wrong. I was referring to Dole who was not a sponsor but was a supporter and advocate.

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dalmo31y ago

It's called Motte and Bailey fallacy.

ceejayoz1y ago

False allegations of that are themselves a fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh-pooh

ceejayoz1y ago

> Lots of people, including Republicans, support the ADA and support expanding its protections.

Now, sure. At the time? Same sort of bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_with_Disabilities_Ac...

Both are rooted in the same concept - that people should have fair opportunity to participate in society even if different in some ways.

pc86OP1y ago

Scroll up a couple lines from your link and take a look at the sponsor, who Republicans nominated to be President. So no, your partisan assertion is nonsense.

ceejayoz1y ago

Tom Harkin? The Democrat?

Are we to think that the Republican party of 1990 - of the Bushes and the Cheneys and the Romneys - is the same as the Republican party of 2025 that has driven them out of the org?

pc86OP1y ago

We're both wrong. I was referring to Dole who was not a sponsor but was a supporter and advocate.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse