Take that problem in the states an multiply it by 3x in Canada.

Lower Income, High Prices, Less Options.

I'm in a similar position that I'm personally doing okay but almost everyone I grew up with has had to either leave Canada for the US, had to live with their parents into their 30s or more to very remote / rural areas to afford life.

Frankly a major skill issue. I know lots of people that have no problem doing that. These are state school and community college educated folks I went to high school with.

Well, that is the ultimate philosophical rabbit hole.

If everyone is doing better objectively but have been hammered with propaganda so much that they subjectively believe they're doing worse, how do you square that?

I'd argue there's an easy solution in getting rid of the propagandists that are making everyone sad, so twitter, facebook etc.

Because even HN, by nature, is still an incredibly US-centric place. And has historically been a very capital-focused place where the stock market and GDP are taken as the only serious indicators by which to measure whether a country is doing well. Both of these points have very slowly been changing here, but the downvotes show it's still largely the same.

I spend my time between East-Asia and Europe, with one foot firmly in each of them, giving me a different perspective showing that Canada is the norm, not the outlier, which would be the US if there were to be one.

I still didn't expect it though, I thought here people would realize authoritarians aren't being voted in everywhere because the populace think things have been improving.

I think people that believe they were better off when they couldn’t go to the grocery store without a mask or thousands were dying of covid a day are delusional, frankly.

But it does sometimes work if you remind them.