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0 pointsprogbits1y ago0 comments

> I like where we're headed with tools like this and Ladybird[0] for hope of a subscriptionless future.

That's a weird statement. I've been running a free, open-source and subscription-less browser (firefox) and terminal emulator (many) for close to 20 years.

Actually I like what ladybird is doing in the browser space, given firefox is quite dependent on google cash. But this is just yet another terminal emulator in a sea of them. The only two distinguishing features I can see are hype and native UI (which mac users care about for some reason -- my native UI is a borderless rectangle in tiling WM).

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SG-1y ago

native UI is so much more than how a border of a window looks like.

poincaredisk1y ago

What is native UI in this context? My terminal emulator is also always basically a full-screen black textarea with white letters. No window borders, no tabs, no buttons, no menus, nothing else. Is there anything native UI would give me in this case (and what is a native UI, I can't find it defined anywhere)?

gpanders1y ago

This gets brought up a lot, so I wrote about it here https://gpanders.com/blog/ghostty-is-native-so-what/

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nateb20221y ago

> The big picture of "native" is that Ghostty is designed to look, feel, and behave like you expect an application to behave in your desktop environment.

> On macOS, the GUI is written in Swift and uses AppKit and SwiftUI.

(https://ghostty.org/docs/about#native)

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urbandw311er1y ago

Your rebuttal is not mutually exclusive to the parent comment. They say it’s the first _new_ such thing in a while, not that there aren’t any in existence.

robertlagrant1y ago

It does where it says they give hope for a wunsciptionless future. We've always had subscriptionless, and the software that was subscriptionless is still around.

progbitsOP1y ago

Can't edit my post anymore so replying to myself with an addendum:

I wrote the comment in a rush last night and I think it sounds like I'm dumping on ghostty. That is not my intention, it looks very well made and a true passion project which I have lot of respect for.

I just took issue with GP adding yet more hype to this.

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0 pointsprogbits1y ago0 comments

> I like where we're headed with tools like this and Ladybird[0] for hope of a subscriptionless future.

That's a weird statement. I've been running a free, open-source and subscription-less browser (firefox) and terminal emulator (many) for close to 20 years.

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SG-1y ago

native UI is so much more than how a border of a window looks like.

poincaredisk1y ago

gpanders1y ago

This gets brought up a lot, so I wrote about it here https://gpanders.com/blog/ghostty-is-native-so-what/

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nateb20221y ago

> The big picture of "native" is that Ghostty is designed to look, feel, and behave like you expect an application to behave in your desktop environment.

> On macOS, the GUI is written in Swift and uses AppKit and SwiftUI.

(https://ghostty.org/docs/about#native)

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urbandw311er1y ago

Your rebuttal is not mutually exclusive to the parent comment. They say it’s the first _new_ such thing in a while, not that there aren’t any in existence.

robertlagrant1y ago

It does where it says they give hope for a wunsciptionless future. We've always had subscriptionless, and the software that was subscriptionless is still around.

progbitsOP1y ago

Can't edit my post anymore so replying to myself with an addendum:

I just took issue with GP adding yet more hype to this.

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