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0 pointsweinzierl1y ago0 comments

The point is that Leptos became awesome even with no money.

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jkelleyrtp1y ago· 4 in thread

Dioxus was awesome for a long time without money :)

As my little side project, we pioneered html-templates, wasm-bindgen string interning, macro hot-reloading, macro auto-formatting, multi-platform builds, native HTML/css rendering, and a number of other "awesome" things before raising a dollar.

Users want a guarantee the project isn't going to disappear tomorrow and sadly 100 bucks a month on open collective isn't a great guarantee.

davidatbu1y ago

As a leptos user, I just wanted to say that I appreciate everything you have outlined here (and more) that you have done for the Rust/wasm ecosystem (especially since other people here seem to be less appreciative of your contributions because you've raised VC funds, and I feel like as an open source maintainer, you probably hear much more from 'dissatisfied customers' than the satisfied ones).

I'm particularly excited about your research on actually hot-reloading Rust binary code. I hope it leads to reduced incremental compilation times (IIUC).

weinzierlOP1y ago

I am sorry, but I have seen projects going down too often once VC capital got involved to be positive about it.

VC capital is just one indicator. Maybe you can answer:

Do you require a CLA or copyright assignment? I don't see it on the GitHub page but then again other projects (like MongoDB) have hidden theirs pretty well.

How many of the contributors are directly payed for their contributions?

jkelleyrtp1y ago

In, my opinion it's good for ambitious projects to have a stable financial foundation. What negative things one project does because of venture capital does not mean another will.

There's no CLA. Dioxus is MIT/Apache-2 licensed.

> How many of the contributors are directly payed for their contributions?

I unfortunately feel like you're asking this in bad faith. Our team is very small, we're very lean, and we have funding sources that aren't just venture. We also have a very active community and people are building new libraries and becoming dioxus contributors every day.

https://github.com/DioxusLabs/dioxus/releases/tag/v0.6.0 (scroll to contributors)

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apitman1y ago

Complexity can be almost as effective a moat as a CLA. If they went closed I doubt anyone would start an effective fork.

sedatk1y ago

No. It just means some people gifted the project the same amount of money by volunteering.

I don’t see why volunteer dev work would be more valuable. It’s the same work. Those people have the same living costs.

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