Ask HN: If a private company like OpenAI acheives AGI

5 pointscrazymoka1y ago15 comments

Do you really think they would make it public or use it to their advantage for as long as possible?

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Personally, I don't think the question is terribly relevant because I see no reason to believe AGI is possible with a binary logic playback device (aka a computer as we know it) and certainly not using relatively simple, statistical algorithms and lots of storage.

Expecting AGI to just spring forth from a box of inert electrical silicon-based switches is like expecting a hammer to start driving nails on it's own.

It's a modern form of alchemy --- expecting a fantastical result from trial and error with only limited understanding of the processes required.

PaulHoule1y ago

E.g. do you have an argument better than Penrose's "I can only do math because I'm a thetan?"

jqpabc1231y ago

Do you have an argument better than "Miracles do happen"?

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adastra221y ago

You’re going to have to define what you mean, because ChatGPT is an artificial intelligence with general problem solving capabilities.

So, yes OpenAI would make AGI available. They already did.

jqpabc1231y ago

Q: How many letters are in the word "intelligence"?

A: The word "intelligence" contains 11 letters: i-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-c-e.

Wrong! The correct answer is 12.

This is definitely not AGI! It is a crude statistical attempt that some people confuse with AGI.

alphan0n1y ago

>Prompt: Use your stateful python environment to count the letters in this comment: “Q: How many letters are in the word "intelligence"? A: The word "intelligence" contains 11 letters: i-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-c-e. Wrong! The correct answer is 12. This is definitely not AGI! It is a crude statistical attempt that some people confuse with AGI.”

>Show your work. Then generate a Jupyter notebook that performs the calculations so I can double check, provide a link to download it from my storage when complete.

>Answer: The total number of letters in the provided comment is 187.

>You can download the generated Jupyter notebook to review and verify the calculations using the link below:

>Download the Jupyter Notebook

https://chatgpt.com/share/6759dd5a-140c-8011-b132-5664f3aaa4...

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adastra221y ago

Again, you need to define AGI. According to the classical definition of the term by the people who coined it, the example you gave proves that it is AGI. You were able to specify a problem using a fully generic interface (chat) that the AI was not specifically trained on, and it got an answer close to the right answer. The process it used to generate that answer is general intelligence.

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jqpabc1231y ago

Expecting AGI to just spring forth from a box of inert electrical silicon-based switches is like expecting a hammer to start driving nails on it's own.

It's a modern form of alchemy --- expecting a fantastical result from trial and error with only limited understanding of the processes required.

PaulHoule1y ago

E.g. do you have an argument better than Penrose's "I can only do math because I'm a thetan?"

jqpabc1231y ago

Do you have an argument better than "Miracles do happen"?

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adastra221y ago

You’re going to have to define what you mean, because ChatGPT is an artificial intelligence with general problem solving capabilities.

So, yes OpenAI would make AGI available. They already did.

jqpabc1231y ago

Q: How many letters are in the word "intelligence"?

A: The word "intelligence" contains 11 letters: i-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-c-e.

Wrong! The correct answer is 12.

This is definitely not AGI! It is a crude statistical attempt that some people confuse with AGI.

alphan0n1y ago

>Show your work. Then generate a Jupyter notebook that performs the calculations so I can double check, provide a link to download it from my storage when complete.

>Answer: The total number of letters in the provided comment is 187.

>You can download the generated Jupyter notebook to review and verify the calculations using the link below:

>Download the Jupyter Notebook

https://chatgpt.com/share/6759dd5a-140c-8011-b132-5664f3aaa4...

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adastra221y ago

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