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0 pointstroad1y ago0 comments

All of the things you list can be achieved with minimal or no JavaScript, and many are completely trivial (filtering? adding reviews and comments?).

In general, if a prospective employee told me they needed React to implement website comments, I would not walk away with a very high opinion of that dev's abilities.

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jakubmazanec1y ago· 2 in thread

They cannot be achieved without JavaScript and still be fast (good luck having product filtering with full-page reloads, your users will flee) - that was the whole point. And I didn't say you have to use React specifically. But without framework you in the end just create a custom one (as was said multiple times by other commenters).

troadOP1y ago

As I said, minimal to no JS. Something like HTMX or Turbo* is more than sufficient to solve this fictitious full page reload aversion that users supposedly have (they don't, they have much more of an aversion to endless spinners and websites that break their browser's scrollbars and back buttons). Ask the average person whether websites have gotten better or worse since 2014. That's their opinion of SPAs.

> But without framework you in the end just create a custom one

Only if you've only ever written React-style webpages, and can't imagine any other way a website may work. Which, needless to say, would reflect a very limited experience of the web.

* Or just a plain XMLHttpRequest call? Dynamic loading is exceedingly simple, and certainly doesn't require a convoluted web framework.

jakubmazanec1y ago

But we're not talking about SPAs, we're talking about e-commerce websites.

> full page reload aversion that users supposedly have (they don't, they have much more of an aversion to endless spinners and websites that break their browser's scrollbars and back buttons)

I'm simply saying user wants performant websites. You're basically saying the same. Full-page reloads are, ceteris paribus, always slower than some JSON payload. And when you're saying to use HTMX, I then don't understand what you mean by "minimal to no JS".

> Only if you've only ever written React-style webpages

Again, I'm not saying anything about using React specifically.

> convoluted web framework

Yet another straw man.

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