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0 pointsbobthepanda1y ago0 comments

Yeah, but it's the same thing as the "built on top of awkward layers" problem that you describe as a problem. it either is or isn't a problem, and then today you can still write it if you want.

People were doing things like making rounded buttons using tables, using things self-described as "clever hacks", and they mostly stopped working because as things like new viewport dimensions showed up you needed to paper over that too.

at least from what i've seen, the other strength of CSS is that it gets used for literally everything and so it's possible to build most conceivable layouts. A lot of the other layout frameworks either just use CSS, or you might run into edge cases because of the sheer amount of things in CSS that may not be well supported elsewhere or do not have a clear parallel.

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taeric1y ago

CSS is easy to hate on, if only because of how much easier form builders were with VBA and such. Flash was also amazing, for content creation.

But I don't want to belabor examples. Fitting everything to the DOM is probably a worse part of the problem. Especially with how people insist on trying to rube Goldberg the layout on the regular behavior, which is clearly for a much more linear document. (Incidentally, no complaints on it to represent a document...)

Then you try to make things stateless for the HTTP nature. As well as largely pretending that the URLs are file system paths.

Both of those land you with frameworks on the frontend that are easy to complain about. We then add to the pain by trying to use the same framework for native.

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