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0 pointssellmesoap1y ago0 comments

Let's find a list of electric cars without some form of network connection!

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IshKebab1y ago· 4 in thread

Found it:

You jest, but I have one: It's an Opel Ampera-E (in the states that's a Chevy Bolt), it's a 2018 model with all the connected features but first it was disconnected from OnStar with Opel being sold to PSA and later it was fully disconnected because it uses a 3G modem for communication but the 3G network was switched off (in most of Europe anyway...)

dlcarrier1y ago

Coda EV

Rav 4 EV

Nissan Leaf

Fiat 500e

Smart Fortwo electric drive

...

There's probably a dozen or so first-generation (well for this century) electric vehicles that are just regular cars that happen to have an electric power plant.

The upside is that you can buy them used, for a couple grand. The downside is that they were manufactured with a 100 mile range, and your lucky if you can find one that still retains half that.

If aftermarket batteries become common, they'd be perfect around-town vehicles.

earleybird1y ago

I'm currently contemplating upgrading my 2013 Leaf battery to a 62Kwh (and much longer range). It's a substantial cost but that would extend the cars life another 15 years. (un)Fortunately I've taken decent care of the original 24Kwh which is at 80.6 SoH after 11 years. Its use case is daily commuter under 45 miles - that's over 11k miles/year (or 18k km/year). At 2% loss on the SoH, that's another 5 years before it hit's 70% and has a noticeable drop in range.

sellmesoapOP1y ago

I once saw a business proposing at a town hall near me that they would open a used ev/hybrid lot, the town was very reserved about approving the business and in the end it fell through. I love cars and tinkering with them, in my experience you can get a lot of miles out of an old car, newer technology can be daunting for old wrenches. I'm somewhere in between with my technical background. The idea of a 'kill switch' in a car is disconcerting for me, but this list gives me hope! Thanks!

lostlogin1y ago· 1 in thread

Pretty sure my 2018 Leaf doesn’t.

everdrive1y ago

Not sure when this will end, but through 2024 the S and SV models (ie, the two lowest trims) for all Nissans do not have network connectivity. This is one the reasons I bought a 2024 Nissan Frontier over some other vehicle.

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