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0 pointssoulofmischief1y ago0 comments

I personally lived in a very backwater state, surrounded by racist conservatives, and was raised hardcore Catholic by extremely abusive guardians. I owe every single ounce of my rationality to the web and the ideas and people I encountered there.

Facebook, etc are definitely terrible for kids. But the wording of these laws is intentionally vague, in order for these kinds of laws to be used according to the whim of the incumbent, as a tool of oppression.

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reliabilityguy1y ago· 5 in thread

I hate to break it to you, but rest of the world is not US and have different socio-cultural dynamics.

Regardless. We should optimize the outcomes for the collective good, and not for the corner cases. Of course it has its cost.

soulofmischiefOP1y ago

I think that's pretty obvious, no?

The entire point is that I got to grow up with a wide variety of opinions and ideas from people across the world.

I have good friends all over the world today thanks to the web. We have influenced and helped each other over the years. We depend on each other. That's not a corner case.

alt2271y ago

> I got to grow up with a wide variety of opinions and ideas from people across the world.

You got to grow up with the vocal minority on the internet, in otherwords the 4% of the worlds population which is most extreme in their views and most arrogant in how they express them.

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hn_acker1y ago

Indeed, the US legal system has many assumptions that may not be applicable to other countries. Violating the US First Amendment right to access information is unconstitutional even if the only people having their rights violated are in the corner cases.

hollerith1y ago

Even the US is not anything like the childhood environment described by GP, for most children.

soulofmischiefOP1y ago

Yes, I represent a minority.

alt2271y ago· 2 in thread

Well that goes a long way to explaining your quite extreme views.

soulofmischiefOP1y ago

You're flirting with an identity fallacy here, but please, explain which part of my views are extreme.

alt2271y ago

>The real reason why politicians push through these anti-social media laws is to prevent children from networking and discussing and sharing revolutionary ideas.

Thats a pretty extreme view to any normal person who didnt grow up on the internet.

EDIT: please stop editing your posts after posting, it makes them most difficult to respond to properly.

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reliabilityguy1y ago· 5 in thread

I hate to break it to you, but rest of the world is not US and have different socio-cultural dynamics.

Regardless. We should optimize the outcomes for the collective good, and not for the corner cases. Of course it has its cost.

soulofmischiefOP1y ago

I think that's pretty obvious, no?

The entire point is that I got to grow up with a wide variety of opinions and ideas from people across the world.

I have good friends all over the world today thanks to the web. We have influenced and helped each other over the years. We depend on each other. That's not a corner case.

alt2271y ago

> I got to grow up with a wide variety of opinions and ideas from people across the world.

You got to grow up with the vocal minority on the internet, in otherwords the 4% of the worlds population which is most extreme in their views and most arrogant in how they express them.

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hn_acker1y ago

hollerith1y ago

Even the US is not anything like the childhood environment described by GP, for most children.

soulofmischiefOP1y ago

Yes, I represent a minority.

alt2271y ago· 2 in thread

Well that goes a long way to explaining your quite extreme views.

soulofmischiefOP1y ago

You're flirting with an identity fallacy here, but please, explain which part of my views are extreme.

alt2271y ago

>The real reason why politicians push through these anti-social media laws is to prevent children from networking and discussing and sharing revolutionary ideas.

Thats a pretty extreme view to any normal person who didnt grow up on the internet.

EDIT: please stop editing your posts after posting, it makes them most difficult to respond to properly.

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