Show HN: Zyme – An Evolvable Programming Language (opens in new tab)

Interesting. I haven't seen much in this space since Lee Spector's "push" more than 20 years ago (http://faculty.hampshire.edu/lspector/push.html). I did see a mention of Push in the FAQ but it would be very interesting to compare this in detail. If I get it correctly Zyme programs are evolved on the bytecode level whereas Push's stack architecture is designed to be evolvable directly at the syntactic level? A head-to-head comparison / benchmark would be super interesting.

I love this idea, it's thought provoking and I want to play

Is there a repository of examples or experiments built with Zyme? Curious to see what has been explored so far

I think it could be fun to focus on visual experiments; shader-like programs as a way to easily explore different outputs

15 or so years ago now - before I worked professionally really - I worked with Common Lisp to create a little toy tool to build, essentially, ASTs and evolve them to achieve a given fitness function. It was a heavily studied topic in the 1995-2005 timeframe at my alma mater. I just uploaded it ( https://github.com/pnathan/z-system ) as an amusing bit.

I'd be curious if the OP has looked at the literature on evolutionary programs (not evo algos, but programs).

"While I've observed bloat in Zyme, I don’t think this is driving the increase in mutation resistance and survival rate" This is evident in the human genome.

Is source available for zyme? I don't see anything on that page about how one might download and install their compiler.

Completely unrelated (and apologies to the OP), Zyme is also a name of a winery near Verona in Italy that makes really unusual, complex and very tasty reds. Beautiful facilities as well. If you are ever in the region, give it a visit - https://www.zyme.it/en/

Is it named after the drug in Deus Ex

Adding a toggle between bytecode and (dis)assembly would make help with visualizing what kind of effect mutation has.

This is really, really cool.

Cue the replicators.

interesting idea to say the least.

wow this is so creative!

Doing => to set variables seems like extra work from just equals. Hopefully it’s kind of optional like it is in R.