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0 pointswokwokwok1y ago0 comments

What fan boy nonsense is this? The VSC support for c# is miles behind visual studio. Rider isn’t as good either, but it’s certainly better than VSC.

Are you heavily using typescript with a bit of c# or a really tiny code base?

This comment is incomprehensible to me. Do you never refactor code? There are a lot of sophisticated things you can’t do with VSC.

It’s a great editor; but not for c#.

The benefit of using it is absolutely zero unless you’re heavily leaning into the other parts of the VSC ecosystem (like a big typescript code base).

> it’s come a really long way

So has visual studio; and it started off better, and still is.

Rider is too.

I’m happy to die on this hill; if you’re using VSC for c#, it’s because it’s free, and perhaps good enough for some things; not because it’s better than the alternatives.

Even if you’re stuck on a Mac, I can't believe you honestly find VSC an acceptable editor after using rider.

All I can say is I certainly do not agree.

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andybak1y ago· 5 in thread

If Visual Studio has better support for C# than Rider, why does Resharper exist?

Not trying to start an argument - I've never used Visual Studio with C# (I was a PyCharm user when I started learning Unity so Rider was an obvious choice) but I always assumed that Rider was better - because it was managing to survive as a paid product so it must have had an edge.

recursive1y ago

> why does Resharper exist?

I've wondered this for a long time. Last time I looked at the feature list, it seemed to consist mostly of stuff that was already in VS. The rest was stuff for which I could not fathom any practical utility.

Some people love it. When I've asked them why, they mention features that are in VS, but they just didn't know it.

So if you figure it out, let me know.

yungporko1y ago

i like resharper just because it has some nice suggestions for cleaning up code that visual studio doesn't have. i probably wouldn't pay for it on its own, but it comes with the package i have for rider so i do use it.

tester7561y ago

>If Visual Studio has better support for C# than Rider, why does Resharper exist?

Back in the days there werent free extensions like Roslynator

tokinonagare1y ago

> If Visual Studio has better support for C# than Rider, why does Resharper exist?

I'm pretty sure Resharper existed before Rider. Also, the existence and utility of the plugin is a mystery to me. I tried it once and it adds so many attention disturbing behavior especially in the bottom bar that I disabled it immediately. None of its feature was every needed in the company I work, and the Rider crowd there don't seems to produce better code than those using VS.

andybak1y ago

> the Rider crowd there don't seems to produce better code than those using VS.

I'm not sure that's a valid way to evaluate the utility of an IDE!

CharlieDigital1y ago· 2 in thread

100k lines of C# in 8 projects, 40k lines of Vue SFCs in 2 workspaces, 39k lines of TypeScript in a monorepo.

I use it every day on a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro 16GB/512GB.

Works completely fine to the extent that I just let my Rider license lapse.

wokwokwokOP1y ago

Well, perhaps anyone who’s thinking about it can do their own research in /r/vscode and read about how much people love c# dev kit.

TLDR; it’s not just me.

I’m glad you like it and have found a workflow that works for you. I think you’re crazy.

CharlieDigital1y ago

My point isn't that "people shouldn't use Rider"; I myself had a Rider license and it's a GREAT IDE.

My point is "you shouldn't skip C# because you think you need a license for an IDE to be use it professionally".

Devs who are already using VSC for doing front-end and want to try full stack can absolutely do heavy lifting in VSC.

I let my license lapse not because Rider wasn't a great IDE, but because VSC is fully capable for backend and fullstack work.

    > I think you're crazy

I'll take that as a compliment :D. Even back in 2021 when I was invited to present at the Azure Serverless Conf[0], I chose VSC for my session to showcase that anyone could start developing .NET without expensive licenses (a common myth).

[0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/azure-serverless-con...

VMtest1y ago

good engineers choose their own tools

otherwise, they are bad engineers, period

keep your strong opinions to yourself and don't be judgemental

you can, however, criticize their workdone instead of their tools

WolfeReader1y ago

"What fan boy nonsense is this?" Good way to start a VS fanboy post.

Personally, I have written APIs in C# from scratch to production entirely in VSC; your assertion that "It’s a great editor; but not for c#" is literally false in my lived experience.

Rider is also good. And since I run Linux, VS took itself out of my consideration entirely.

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