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0 pointssaturn86011y ago0 comments

Man his speaking and writing style get so annoying after a while and I speak as someone who has seen him talk at DEFCON and HOPE multiple times. He has got this god like reputation among the hacker community. Might there be someone who isn't as attention seeking and who isn't just trying to make catchy speeches talking about the same ideas?

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BryantD1y ago

I tend to agree with you on this, but it's kind of an amusing comment given the linked article's comment on memes:

"the most talented people tend to develop their own vocabularies and memes, and these serve as entry points to a whole intellectual world constructed by that person."

Doctorow is not one of the examples he provides, but I'm not sure that any of this negates the point.

hitekker1y ago

"Above all things we should avoid often talking of ourselves and giving ourselves as an example; nothing is more tiresome than a man who quotes himself for everything." is the quote I reach for from https://www.gutenberg.org/files/9105/9105-h/9105-h.htm

red-iron-pine1y ago

> Doctorow is not one of the examples he provides, but I'm not sure that any of this negates the point.

lol what? Doctorow created "enshitification" to describe rent seeking and its behaviors, and has been creating a technocratic journalist vocab since the BoingBoing days.

BryantD1y ago

Yes, precisely.

The point is that we tend to think of jargon creators as particularly insightful when their biases/viewpoints match our own, and annoying when they don't.

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BryantD1y ago

I tend to agree with you on this, but it's kind of an amusing comment given the linked article's comment on memes:

"the most talented people tend to develop their own vocabularies and memes, and these serve as entry points to a whole intellectual world constructed by that person."

Doctorow is not one of the examples he provides, but I'm not sure that any of this negates the point.

hitekker1y ago

red-iron-pine1y ago

> Doctorow is not one of the examples he provides, but I'm not sure that any of this negates the point.

lol what? Doctorow created "enshitification" to describe rent seeking and its behaviors, and has been creating a technocratic journalist vocab since the BoingBoing days.

BryantD1y ago

Yes, precisely.

The point is that we tend to think of jargon creators as particularly insightful when their biases/viewpoints match our own, and annoying when they don't.

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