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0 pointsmattmanser13y ago0 comments

1) What I'm saying is bluntly this, so what? Males are characterized by an over abundance of confidence, would you brow beat them all to being meek? This is exactly the emasculation I mentioned above.

2) I still don't even know what the hell "technical entitlement" is? I think you actually mean over-confidence. See 1.

3) I'm simply saying accept it. Moaning about it is like a man moaning about a woman turning up late to a date. Or even not at all. If you are capable of changing that bizarre female behaviour, you're welcome to fix this bizarre male behaviour too. This isn't about teenagers, this is about fundamental gender differences.

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ebiester13y ago· 1 in thread

American males are characterized by an overabundance of confidence. Other cultures discourage self-expression in this fashion without any "emasculation."

This isn't about fundamental gender differences, it is about a subculture's expression of dominance and cultural norms, and it is exactly the kind of thing that us older geeks should be imparting to younger geeks.

mattmanserOP13y ago

Apart from watching foreign cinema, which pretty much shows men are men throughout the known world, I've personally met a large cross-section of men from different cultures, albeit mainly western, none of whom particularly differ when it comes to bravado or over-confidence, especially in adolescence.

And many of other countries that I haven't met haven't even gone through female emancipation, I have no doubt the vast number of countries like that are far worse.

I just don't agree with you. And again, I've had to say it before this week, I'm not American and have never even been there. I've only met a couple of Americans in passing and they were all female or mormons. Mormons get a little special category of their own, those two were very strange.

aidenn013y ago

1) This is a false dilemma. There are probably many ways to improve gender-disparity in tech without emasculating men

2) I agree it's a shitty term, but it's from the article we are discussing, so I used it. Sure I'm happy talking about overconfidence

3) I choose not to accept a status-quo where there is clearly strong discouragement to a large fraction of the population from entering into a field in which we can use all the talent we can get. I'm not trying to "fix" either side here, as that is untenable. I'm trying to come up with an environment in which those differences don't cause the undesirable outcome we now have.

tessr13y ago

I don't think being an asshole is inherent to either men or women. Similarly, both men and women are capable of being kind.

You might want to try it some time--it's not so bad!

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