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0 pointspiva001y ago0 comments

You can't bring Nietzsche's view of ambition and consider it as truth without even bringing more contemporary criticisms of it, even if you'd like to see it through Virtue Ethics it should be considered as a virtue in a diverse set of virtues, ambition shouldn't trump other moral values.

As entertaining as it was to read "On The Genealogy of Morality" when I was 20 years old I'd say it's rather... Reductionist, at least.

Sloterdijk updates on it even bring up how to consider "will to power" not as an individual ambition but as a holistic way to actualise oneself to give something back to the world, not as a power over others which is the main way corporations are run.

Pursuing your ambitions at the expense of the rest of the globe is not moral.

Please update your philosophical repertoire, you're stuck in the 1800s.

0 pointspiva001y ago0 comments

As entertaining as it was to read "On The Genealogy of Morality" when I was 20 years old I'd say it's rather... Reductionist, at least.

Pursuing your ambitions at the expense of the rest of the globe is not moral.

Please update your philosophical repertoire, you're stuck in the 1800s.

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whimsicalism1y ago· 3 in thread

I'm not going to engage further because you're coming from a condescending angle that doesn't invite discussion, but I can't help but laugh at a virtue ethicist telling me I'm stuck in the philosophical past. Something something glass houses and stones.

arp2421y ago

You posted a one-line dismissive and condescending put-down yourself, which basically added nothing to the conversation.

Don't hold others to higher standards than you hold yourself.

whimsicalism1y ago

I was commenting on the notion that ambition is in some way prima facie bad.

In response, I was told that my understanding of philosophy is like that of a 20 year old and that I am intellectually stuck in the 1800s (in a comment comically premised on the moral philosophy of the ancient greeks).

I do not see my comment as a put-down at all and it certainly is not anything like that response. Nonetheless, I will take your feedback into account - clearly it came across to multiple people as condescending.

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piva00OP1y ago

It's a condescending angle because you were condescending at first, even more when attempting to use 1800s philosophy to argument for ambition based on very fossilised philosophy. I like Nietzsche, I wouldn't use Nietzsche as the sole basis of morality argumentation since there are much more updated thinkers considering our moral standards in the contemporary world.

Receding from the discussion doesn't take that away, you were being reductionist in your argumentation, I just pointed out you were stuck in the 1800s.

Since then I read your profile and saw you are actually a consequentialist, I don't want anything to do with Effective Altruism true believers so thanks for not engaging further.

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