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0 pointsphillmv13y ago0 comments

> you are giving them privileged information (who your best people are)

Between linked in, google, your company's about page, github and twitter accounts, you can already figure this out in ten minutes flat. You don't even need to know that in order to recruit people.

I feel that NDAs are kind of bullshit too, but they're typically not as expressly oppressive. Unless they stretch into noncompetes, which are incredible bullshit.

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simonw13y ago

"Between linked in, google, your company's about page, github and twitter accounts, you can already figure this out in ten minutes flat"

I don't think that's true at all. Some of the best engineers I've worked with have had very small online footprints (they're too busy building awesome things at their company to spend much time on Twitter etc). Now that I'm responsible for hiring, I consider knowledge of that kind of person to be incredibly important.

dagw13y ago

I have to agree here. Most of the best people I've worked with don't have much in the way of twitter and github accounts. Github and twitter only seems popular within a fairly narrow professional and cultural niche.

pawelwentpawel13y ago

I understand using github/twitter a lot if you're a developer. When you work on something you might want to get some immediate feedback/testers on it.

Yet still, linkedin (even though useful) scares me away a little bit. Each single time I get back, I see more and more people inventing longer and more exotic job names and descriptions, pitching around with some void statements and uploading their pictures in suits.

nathan_long13y ago

My problem with LinkedIn is other people. People want me to say I know them when I don't (hey, networking!). People want me to recommend them when I have only seen them in the hallway and don't even know what they do.

I am very conservative about these things. Does LinkedIn's own model disagree? Does it push people towards larger networks, instead of smaller, higher-value ones?

Am I doing it wrong, or is (seemingly) everyone else?

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vellum13y ago

I agree. Github is like a portfolio. But you don't need a portfolio if you're a great developer with a strong network.

barrkel13y ago

This is really, really not true. Some of (perhaps even most of) the best engineers I've worked with had almost zero public profile, almost to the point of being publicity phobic.

phillmvOP13y ago

In retrospect, I was being a little hyperbolic. I too know plenty of developers without an online presence.

Anyhow, my point was, who your best employees are is not privileged information.

SonicSoul13y ago

care to elaborate exactly how you accomplish this in 10 min? or any other time period?

out of all the great developers i know, 1 has a technical blog (and he updates it very infrequently). Also, how do you gauge if someone is a star based on their twitter or linked in profiles?

phillmvOP13y ago

A good 90% of the people I know have linked in profiles. You look at their titles. See who is a friend of the top cheese on facebook, sort by universities. Github is self explanatory, I hope.

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simonw13y ago

"Between linked in, google, your company's about page, github and twitter accounts, you can already figure this out in ten minutes flat"

dagw13y ago

pawelwentpawel13y ago

I understand using github/twitter a lot if you're a developer. When you work on something you might want to get some immediate feedback/testers on it.

nathan_long13y ago

I am very conservative about these things. Does LinkedIn's own model disagree? Does it push people towards larger networks, instead of smaller, higher-value ones?

Am I doing it wrong, or is (seemingly) everyone else?

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vellum13y ago

I agree. Github is like a portfolio. But you don't need a portfolio if you're a great developer with a strong network.

barrkel13y ago

This is really, really not true. Some of (perhaps even most of) the best engineers I've worked with had almost zero public profile, almost to the point of being publicity phobic.

phillmvOP13y ago

In retrospect, I was being a little hyperbolic. I too know plenty of developers without an online presence.

Anyhow, my point was, who your best employees are is not privileged information.

SonicSoul13y ago

care to elaborate exactly how you accomplish this in 10 min? or any other time period?

out of all the great developers i know, 1 has a technical blog (and he updates it very infrequently). Also, how do you gauge if someone is a star based on their twitter or linked in profiles?

phillmvOP13y ago

A good 90% of the people I know have linked in profiles. You look at their titles. See who is a friend of the top cheese on facebook, sort by universities. Github is self explanatory, I hope.

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