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0 pointspembrook1y ago0 comments

Surprise surprise, turns out it takes a looong time for every software startup to finally strip out all the hacky stuff from their MVP days. Apparently nobody on this startup community forum has ever built a startup before.

Pro tip: if stuff like this violently upsets you, never be an early adopter of anything. Wait 5-10 years and then make your move.

Personally, I expect stuff like this from challenger alternatives, this is the way it should be. There is no such thing as a new, bug-free software product. Software gets good by gaining adoption and going through battle testing, it’s never the other way around like some big company worker would imagine.

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thruway5161y ago

I don't think you understood the severity or the noobiness of the error. This is a browser not a crud app or electron app. A browser is a complex system level piece of software not a hacky mvp and this kind of error shows that maybe they don't have the competence to be building something like this. It makes you wonder what other basic flaws are there just waiting to be exploited, even if its built on top of chromium. Would you fly in an mvp airplane built by bicycle engineers? (maybe not the best analogy since the first airplane was built by bicycle engineers)

pembrookOP1y ago

Agreed, I wouldn’t have hopped on the first airplane with some bicyclist named Wilbur. That would involve risk of immediate physical harm.

On the other hand, we’re talking about a 2 year old browser leaking what websites you visit. Do you also think Firefox in 2006 was bulletproof? The entire internet and every single OS & browser was a leaky bucket back then.

The current safety-ism, paranoia and risk-aversion around consumer software on this forum is hilarious to me. Maybe they shouldn’t have called this place “Hacker” news, because it’s now full of people LARPing as international intelligence agency targets from a 90s movie. If the prying Five Eyes are such a concern for you, maybe use a fake email when signing up for stuff and your browser history is instantly anonymized.

Yes, startups involve lots of risk (to everyone involved, users/employees/founders/investors). But risk is the only way we get new things. If you those risks are too scary for you, stay far away startups.

thruway5161y ago

You're speaking in bland hand-wavy generalities and like I said before I'm not sure you understood the issue or even read the write-up since you're not really addressing it specifically (it's a whole lot more than 'leaking'). To extend the analogy, this is like having bike engineers build an mvp supersonic jet and you find out they are using bike brakes to stop the thing. Its not even just merely an error its about some very questionable architecture. This is not a mozilla innovating the browser and making the mistakes you get when you're experimenting-and-innovating-something-new type situation at all and it has nothing to do with paranoia or five-eyes lol.

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0 pointspembrook1y ago0 comments

Pro tip: if stuff like this violently upsets you, never be an early adopter of anything. Wait 5-10 years and then make your move.

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thruway5161y ago

pembrookOP1y ago

Agreed, I wouldn’t have hopped on the first airplane with some bicyclist named Wilbur. That would involve risk of immediate physical harm.

thruway5161y ago

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