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0 pointsgouranga13y ago0 comments

Agreed, but this is standard tactics for the police.

The police (particularly the met) are out to get an easy prosecution and fulfill their statistical requirements rather than fair and honest justice. They will pretend to be your friend and offer you an easy way out that doesn't exist to do this.

The best thing you can do is say nothing at all. Shut your gob and refuse to say a word. Everything should be replied to with "no comment".

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mike_esspe13y ago

Relevant talk for those, who thinks it can be a good idea to talk to police: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

jiggy201113y ago

I am not a lawyer, but it's worth noting that in the UK we don't have a 5th amendment. So I believe in some circumstances it can reflect badly on you if you refuse to answer questions from the Police especially where you could have provided information that would have been in your favour.

For example, part of standard USA Miranda:

"Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

British Equivalent:

"You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court"

Having said that, I would personally keep quiet until you at least have a solicitor.

gourangaOP13y ago

That is when you are questioned, not when you are arrested. You can keep quiet as long as you want. Technically the simpler your questioning and therefore statement is, the more ambiguity is available in court which goes in your favor whether guilty or innocent. During cross examination, any error you make ruins your credibility. No information = less errors. Choosing not to answer a question does not imply guilt - it's in the CPS prosecution guidelines.

With respect to solicitors, get a private one as well (preferably one who knowingly hates the police) rather than a duty solicitor as they are in the pockets of the police in the UK. They are one and the same - they eat, drink, socialise and funny handshake in the same locations.

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gourangaOP13y ago

For reference, having been on the end of it (at Waterloo Station [1]), the police also use another tactic regularly which sucks but is easily dealt with:

"I'll pepper spray you if you don't make a statement and say you were resisting arrest".

Make a fucking scene: "shout as loud as possible what the officer said". When there are a hundred eyes on you, they back off.

[1] I was going camping and had a hatchet inside my bag (not easily accessible) and was stopped and searched. It is definitely legal to carry such things as long as there is a purpose for it.

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mike_esspe13y ago

Relevant talk for those, who thinks it can be a good idea to talk to police: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

jiggy201113y ago

For example, part of standard USA Miranda:

"Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

British Equivalent:

"You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court"

Having said that, I would personally keep quiet until you at least have a solicitor.

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gourangaOP13y ago

For reference, having been on the end of it (at Waterloo Station [1]), the police also use another tactic regularly which sucks but is easily dealt with:

"I'll pepper spray you if you don't make a statement and say you were resisting arrest".

Make a fucking scene: "shout as loud as possible what the officer said". When there are a hundred eyes on you, they back off.

[1] I was going camping and had a hatchet inside my bag (not easily accessible) and was stopped and searched. It is definitely legal to carry such things as long as there is a purpose for it.

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