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0 pointsmagicalhippo1y ago0 comments

Keep in mind that for a car, 2000 cycles is still a fair bit. My BEV has a range of 350 km fully charged (highway). At 2000 cycles that's 700000 km.

That said, I previously read studies suggesting to keep the batteries between 30-70% SOC for optimal longevity, though I imagine there's been a lot of research so it might be now outdated.

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Joel_Mckay1y ago

Some older Tesla Models used the Panasonic 21700 cells.

In general, "the battery is the car" for EVs... The bigger the better in my opinion, as it will last longer due to reduced stress on the cells.

Even if people are stressing the vehicle pack, they should still get 5 to 12 years out of the car. Note, some companies hide the expected range loss by over-provisioning capacity.

Best regards, =3

jajko1y ago

> The bigger the better in my opinion

This is definitely true, recently faced issues with my motorbike battery and oh boy are they fragile and lose charge by themselves quickly compared to bigger car batteries.

Basically I left a few times older (10-15 years) diesel bmw standing whole winter without touching it, started always without any issue (I know not the best idea re fuel in the tank, but it worked).

I did that once to completely new motorbike (honda) with good brand battery but I didn't unplug it, and now battery is permanently damaged and loses full charge in less than 2 days to such levels that it can't start the engine even if those 2 days its completely unplugged.

Joel_Mckay1y ago

Motorbike Pb AGM batteries are much different in modern vehicles. The prismatic packs often increase the plate surface area to bump cranking amp ratings. Thus, the cells design are thinner and more fragile too. We used these in some equipment at one time, for the extended temperature range.

Tip: if a Pb pack is partially discharged, it is more vulnerable to cold-weather related standby failures. Most people that own boats/heavy-equipment get a plug-in trickle-charger for Pb batteries, as the adapter also helps keep the pack slightly warmed.

Best of luck, =3

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Joel_Mckay1y ago

Some older Tesla Models used the Panasonic 21700 cells.

In general, "the battery is the car" for EVs... The bigger the better in my opinion, as it will last longer due to reduced stress on the cells.

Even if people are stressing the vehicle pack, they should still get 5 to 12 years out of the car. Note, some companies hide the expected range loss by over-provisioning capacity.

Best regards, =3

jajko1y ago

> The bigger the better in my opinion

This is definitely true, recently faced issues with my motorbike battery and oh boy are they fragile and lose charge by themselves quickly compared to bigger car batteries.

Basically I left a few times older (10-15 years) diesel bmw standing whole winter without touching it, started always without any issue (I know not the best idea re fuel in the tank, but it worked).

Joel_Mckay1y ago

Best of luck, =3

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