Ask HN: Strategies for local backups of cloud data?

5 pointsplg1y ago4 comments

I use Dropbox and I use Apple's various iCloud storage things (Documents, Desktop, Photos, etc). I believe it's probably true that these companies can do a better job of maintaining my data over the long term, than me, buying HDDs and replacing them before they fail, etc etc etc.

but

What I'm actually afraid of is some screw-up that ends up preventing me from accessing my cloud data. For example a billing screwup. Or a scan-for-prohibited-materials gone wrong. Or a login screwup. Or a straight-up attack from a bad actor. Or simply an infrastructure oops.

Presently I have one machine under my control that I have set so that Dropbox stores all data locally also, and I have tried to do the same with Apple iCloud (though I'm never sure with Apple what is actually happening) ... and then I run a cron job to backup those folders to a NAS onsite.

But I really like the idea of 100% of my data living on the cloud and a far smaller percentage "living" on my local machine at any one time ... especially when the cloud storage total starts getting large w.r.t the size of the HD on my local machine.

Is there some kind of service or program/app that will periodically suck down 100% of my cloud data and stick it on my NAS, without having to actually store 100% on my computer (the one doing the sucking) at any one time?

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geekodour1y ago

i think rclone is what you need. but for "backup", check restic. i personally use restic to backup all my stuff to b2 using restic's encryption.

have a checklist kind of a thing here if it helps: https://geekodour.org/docs/tools/homelab/#backup-plan I've not updated it in a while my setup has diverged since

konha1y ago

Just a note: Make sure whatever you use to backup iCloud can handle files that are not currently synced to your device. Arq (https://www.arqbackup.com) has a setting to "materialize" these files before backup for example.

plgOP1y ago

interesting (the ‘materialize’ option in Arq). I wonder what it does to the files it ‘materializes’ after the backup … does it leave them on the local disk or does Arq instruct the service (dropbox or icloud) to make it cloud only again? I guess I’m wondering about the case where the total cloud footprint is larger than the local disk footprint.

konha1y ago

Arq works with file system level snapshots. So I guess at one point all the files have to be present for the backup work. Not ideal for scenarios where the cloud data exceeds the local storage.

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Ask HN: Strategies for local backups of cloud data?

5 pointsplg1y ago4 comments

but

4 comments

geekodour1y ago

i think rclone is what you need. but for "backup", check restic. i personally use restic to backup all my stuff to b2 using restic's encryption.

have a checklist kind of a thing here if it helps: https://geekodour.org/docs/tools/homelab/#backup-plan I've not updated it in a while my setup has diverged since

konha1y ago

plgOP1y ago

konha1y ago

Arq works with file system level snapshots. So I guess at one point all the files have to be present for the backup work. Not ideal for scenarios where the cloud data exceeds the local storage.

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