What metric are you using to come to the conclusion that OpenSearch is the more valuable brand?
• Google search volume and quantity of search result pages (blogs, recipes, etc.)
• Mentions in LinkedIn profiles as a skill
• Number of job post listings as a requisite skill
• Social media mentions
It is a measure of "mindshare" or "share of voice." Not one of market share ($$$) or utilization (TBs under management, etc.).
With that said, in the August 2024 listing:
• Elasticsearch is ranked #8 (of 423 systems tracked), with an index score of 129.83
• OpenSearch is ranked #35, with an index score of 16.47
This would make OpenSearch about an eighth as prevalent.
Anecdata, but very real.
I don't have those metrics or an opinion, im just saying that value is based on utilization by a product's target users, not support activities.
it happens - why would you think commercial operators who’ve chosen a dual-license model wouldn’t protect their IP? That’s literally their breadwinner.
So they were originally Apache-2.0 which was permissive versus now they are AGPL which is copyleft.
The important distinction here is that if Amazon was to use Elastic directly, they'd have to make their contributions available to users and those users could then upstream those contributions back to Elastic. In the old situation with Apache-2.0, Amazon could take contributions from Elastic but then they kept them themself for the most part without up-streaming.
This forces a give-and-take relationship vs a one-way relationship.
Also importantly now that Elastic is AGPL they can integrate anything they want from OpenSearch's Apache-2.0 licensed projects but unless OpenSearch becomes AGPL as well, they can't pull any contributions from Elastic.
There going to be some hard irony here, of making such a fuss about it before, when it was someone else doing it, and then doing it themselves.
We’ll see. Maybe they’re principled enough not to rip off the open search contributions.
If not, you’ve really got to believe there’s no sincerity left at elastic.
I guess time will tell; I’d like to believe they’re better than that.
Now you have two open source projects and one has a copyleft license and the other has a permissive license.
Taking contributions from the permissive to the copyleft project isn't ripping off contributions. It's using open source software and collaborating in the FOSS ecosystem. And Amazon would be free to pull contributions back the other way just as well as long as they agree to the mutual terms of the AGPL (which is by all means a FOSS license).
Contrary to what other people are saying in this thread, I would not say it has better branding than ElasticSearch and that ES has lost its battle. Outside AWS OpenSearch is still not a big contender
Edit: As long as OpenSearch doesn’t start breaking the self hosted use case, I don’t see any reason to consider Elasticsearch again. In fact, ES would have to offer up a significant advantage to overcome the bother.
