This was actually labor-intensive on Google scale and thus expensive. It also had problems. For example, certain results might be time-sensitive. Searching for "Simone Biles" now should have her Olympic results near the top of the list. Run that same query in 2 years and the desired result will be different.
Also, user behaviour changes over time. If you had user search data from 2000, how would you deal with Reddit search results now? Or the SEO content farms that came later?
You need ongoing user behaviour data to continually refine search results. It's a constant arms race.
So along comes Chrome. Originally then-CEO Eric Schmidt didn't really see why Google should get into the browser business. This was in the 2000s. But we were still in the grip of the IE dominance although it was waning and Firefox was floundering. In the 2000s browser support was a much bigger problem than it is today. It's why we got things like jQuery.
But Chrome went ahead and even from Chrome 2 or 3 it was so much better than anything else. One big innovation was a process-per-tab. FF was known for freezing the entire browser because each tab was a thread.
But why did Google invest so much in this? Search results.
Chrome gave Google insights into how users interacted with search. Side by sides no longer became necessary because Google had direct insight into how users interacted with search results, whether they clicked on a link and immediately left (ie bouncing, this absolutely hurts how Google ranks your site and Google uses it to downrank SEO content farm sites) and what link gave the user the result.
This accumulated knowledge and insight from the user's browser is something that no one other than possibly Microsoft could theoretically compete with.
Why did I tell this story? Because this article talks about Google's search dominance and doesn't mention Chrome. You cannot talk about one without the other. If you don't mention Chrome, I really question your knowledge on the subject.
Disclaimer: Xoogler
Glad I use Firefox. It works, and while not perfect, is considerably more respectful of my privacy and less misaligned with my interest.
How did his work? Google would know what result was clicked and if another result was clicked shortly thereafter in any browser.
In the U.S. it’s not illegal to be a monopoly but to use your monopoly position to prevent competitors from entering the market. (This is why it’s not illegal for a small town to have a single gas station, for example.) If 90% of users freely choose to search with Google that’s fine from a strictly legal point of view. The U.S’s case was that Google was coercing that choice by bidding extremely high amounts to be the default search on web browsers, thus hindering competitors from entering the search market.
And by promoting Chrome on every Google property from Youtube to Search to Google Docs
That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
Right now there's a few million Tesla cars on the road, in principle all could gather training data and gather tens of billions of miles of real world experience each year compared to the low single-digit millions of miles that a professional driver would see in their lifetime… and despite that, FSD has yet to earn the "F".
Cracking the data requirement for training AI is high value research; I don't think anyone has solved it yet, but this field being what it is it may have happened months ago behind closed doors, or it might be something that's just been added to the HN feed while I write this, or we may still be saying the same things in 2034.
I can't honestly say youtube disappearing won't have an impact, but it will not be the end of the world even I won't get to archive all the items I want. Something will replace it. And if it doesn't, that is ok too.
Imagine the falloff of internet traffic.
Reminds me of the comedian who, when asked, "How's your wife," would say, "Compared to what?"
1) Google’s results are really good. Not quite. Google's results used to be really good but now are a mix of helpful to some, less helpful and fully counterproductive.
2) and they’re really good because they have a monopoly on the user data. User data may elevate some products but the worth of search results stems from the crawled index and search algorithms.
2a) every engineer could leave and a start a new search engine with the exact same source code and that search engine would be worse. Only until their crawlers built a sufficient index. If they can filter out results gamed for Google SEO, they'll be better.
3) In a landmark case, a US judge has ruled that Google’s monopoly on search is unlawful. Trim the first 3 letters of the last word and this conclusion will be sound.
Not an easy read by any means, but it's core hypothesis is spot on IMO: Google (and others) core business is aggregating and processing as much user data as possible. Every product they create and every decision they make aims to increase or protect their access to data.
It seems like their real business model is to gather customer data in order to sell it to brokers, and the shops are the bait
There is a colossal amount of specification work to do to figure out how to make various necessary web flows possible again after removing third party cookies.
Chrome has an incredible commitment to web standards, to not throwing in arbitrary browser-specific web functionality, to going through the process of improving the web holistically. Trying to live up to that high expectation is hard, and we can see a dozen third party cookies or storage isolation concerns they're having to tackle if we go look at https://github.com/orgs/explainers-by-googlers/repositories?...
(And users already have a choice, Chrome has a setting for whether 3p cookies are allowed, blocked, or blocked in just incognito mode. Reading between the lines, they are probably going to ask users to explicitly choose, since they're not allowed to change the default.)
